Ok, I'll try to summarize a bit. With all these very technichal mails flowing around,
I might have missed something, so please add/correct/flame as needed


- The issue at hand is "how to set up a secure connection between two XMPP clients". Assume that we do have the ability to set up sessions through a network of XMPP servers or by using the same server and need to move from that channel to a secure
  channel - end to end.

- The XMPP community wants to encourage use of secure connections and
create a recommended solution that is so simple so it is actually becomes used, and so well documented and standardized, so it becomes implemented quickly
  in clients.

- clients can be both humans and applications (bots/devices)

- "secure" can be divided into
* confidential - meaning encrypted in a secure way (secure here depends on the nature
     of the conversation)
*authenticated - all involved parties have assured the identity of the other parties.

- At this point, we place requirements for non-repudation and integrity outside
  of the scope of this work

- The level of security needed depends on the nature of the conversation. The standard should be flexible and open for several kinds of authentication systems, from OpenGPG systems to X.509 certificates, from self-signed certificates to
  PKI-managed certificates.

- In the documents needed, there is a need to separate the technology used
   for setting up secure connections from the trust systems involved.

- The confidentiality solution is based on the well-known TLS standard,
   as specified by the IETF.
  Any authentication systems has to work in conjunction with TLS.

- A set of guidelines for GUI interfaces are needed, so that the XMPP implementations use the same terminology and concepts, thus making it easier for users to set up
  a secure connection.

- We need a delegation system, that separates "user identity" from "resource" or "client" identity, so that a user can delegate the right to connect to an account to devices, like set-top-boxes or cell phones. For this a server-based management of this
  delegation and revocation is needed

 - To bootstrap the usage of this, we need a set of solutions that MUST
be implemented in clients and servers. This should also be included in
   the XEPs for base profile of clients/servers. The standards should
   define optional solutions that can be used in various environments,
   like enterprise PKI controlled IM and middle-ware-messaging XMPP
   systems or solutions that emphasize strong authentication but
   doesn't necessarily have a need of confidentiality.

- Any solution does have to work over NAT sessions, possibly with
   NAT relays, where NAT traversal support systems like STUN and
   ICE fails.

Not in any special order...

Have a nice weekend! I'm going out to pick mushrooms. After a lot of rain
thist month, there's plenty of them in the forests of Sweden.

/O

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