Dave Cridland wrote:
On Mon Sep  1 23:13:08 2008, Pavel Simerda wrote:
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:47:47 +0200
Dirk Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> > Dirk Meyer wrote:
> >> Peter wants to give XEP-0189 more love, I guess this is something
> >> that should be in it. Also the user/client keys. When he is back I
> >> can work with him to add all that stuff.
> >
> > Sure, let's do that. Or feel free to pull the XML out of SVN and
> > start working on it. :)
>
> I just looked at it and PEP and some other XEPs and there are some
> things I do not like. Maybe these XEPs need a small update for this
> use-case.
>
> 1. PEP says the last_item should only be send if the priority is not
>    negative. But all bots have a negative priority and will never get
>    the updates. Maybe an extra config option for PubSub/PEP: also send
>    to negative priority?

http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html#filtered-notifications

No priority in PubSub.

In PEP:

"If a subscriber subscribed using a bare JID <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and
a PEP service has appropriate presence information about the
subscriber, the PEP service MUST send one notification to the full JID
(<[EMAIL PROTECTED]/resource> or <domain.tld/resource>) of each of
the subscriber's available resources that have specified non-negative
presence priority and included XEP-0115 information that indicates an
interest in the data format."

I believe that if some resource indicates an interest, it should get
what it wants.

+1 for a change in the XEP

> 2. I like the fact that I get a notification when I start my client
>    when there is a new item (if it is configured that way). But I also
>    want to be notified when something was deleted (certificate
>    revoked). What I would like to have is that I get a notification
>    from the server that "something has changed since I was last
>    online" so I can get the whole tree of certificates.

You should not need to watch deleted item. Certificates are revoked,
not deleted, revocation could be just easily announced as a new item.

> Maybe move that discussion to the pubsub list? /me needs to subscribe
> to that list, too :)

Maybe, I'm not sure.

I'm sure. Copied. :-)

I (or someone) will report back with whatever it was that ended up being decided; in the meantime, assume that from a protocol perspective, we'll find a solution.

I provisionally modified XEP-0163 to remove the prohibition on sending to negative resources. The next Council will need to approve that change because XEP-0163 has a status of Draft. I assume that the incoming Council Chair will handle that somehow. :)

/psa

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