Sure.

For a GIAC rating I would have to:

1) Pay $3k USD to take one of the tracks.
2) Pay $150 USD to attempt GIAC rating for that track.
3) I would have to write a white paper that I do not own copyright own. SANS
does.
   So SANS can has exclusive rights over my material. Nice way to make sure
your web site is visited.
4) Then I would have to write two exams for the track.
5) Every year go back to 1).

There are eight tracks. And I am a practitioner.

Barry W. Kokotailo RET/CSA/CSNA/CISSP
Information Technology Security Specialist
Edmonton Public School Board
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-----Original Message-----
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Clarification:
SANS is not anti-CISSP. The 2 certs address different audiences.
GIAC certs are geared toward practitioners and CISSP is geared toward
management types.
SANS, in fact, offers considerable discounts to CISSP certified people
seeking GIAC certifications.





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> > Finally, the certification was originally designed
> > for and by federal gov't types...govvies.  Many of
> > the questions when I took the exam in '99 were
> > heavily weighted toward the Rainbow Series,
> > particularly the Orange and Red books.  The CPEs
> > are heavily weighted toward govvies, as well...I
> > don't know many commercial consulting firms that
> > can have their employees running off to
> > conferences and doing other things that they can't
> > bill to, all to get these CPE points.
>
> Oh, I don't know...I'm a 'govvie' and I'm just a couple
> of hours short of recertification for CISSP without
> attending a single conference.
>
> I will admit, though, that all certifications in the InfoSec
> field that I've investigated (not just CISSP) are pretty
> darned self-serving.  They tend to be highly competitive
> with one another, and to me that just hurts us in the
> overall picture.  Certs should ideally be complementary or
> reinforcing, not mutually exclusive.  I'd be a lot more
> inclined to pursue GIAC (I'm a big fan of SANS) if they
> weren't so frankly anti-CISSP.  I'm sure GIAC folks find the
> reverse to be true.  Instead of competing against one another,
> it would be nice to see some cooperation and a concerted attempt
> for each to fill in the gaps left by the other.
>
> Cheers,
>
> RGF
>
> Robert G. Ferrell, CISSP
> http://rferrell.home.texas.net/rgflit.html
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>

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