As a corporate recruiter, I would like to remind all of you that many of us use securityfocus.com as a source for candidates when we have security positions available. Perhaps Aaron should address these types of questions to the career job boards (monster, careerbuilder, etc.) where they can go to the career/resume advice section and ask the experts how to address these issues.
These issues really have nothing to do with security. They do have to do with integrity, ethics, truth, and career coaching. Please realize that employers read these postings as well as security hiring management (as you can see from the reply signatures). I believe you do more harm than good when you air dirty laundry in the wrong forum. Regards, Lisa Hylas Corporate Recruiter Human Resources Spherion Corporation Making the Workplace Work Better 2050 Spectrum Blvd. Fort Lauderdale, FL 33309 USA Tel: 954-308-7730 Fax: 954-308-6066 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.spherion.com -----Original Message----- From: Richard Reinders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 4:03 PM To: Bob Radvanovsky Cc: Aaron Whyte; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Had a lot of jobs - how do I avert that negative aspect Hi, what confuses me, as someone who will be looking for a job shortly, is some of the advice given. We are in the information system security field. People are relying on our integrity. People assume we are there to help them and not make off with their corporate secrets. I don't think slightly manipulating reality is a good approach whatsoever and if people find out you'll look really bad. It's really too bad if the truth doesn't work, but people finding out that you lied is worse. It can easily destroy your reputation. A short explanation and then a witty (but true) or perhaps a confrontational response, like Paul Schmehl suggested, seem much better in my opinion. Adding a P.S asking interested people to contact you after claiming you have slightly manipulated (I will not use stronger terms here) seems kind of odd. Imagine you being a CEO who is uptight about someone coming in and trying to break into systems and you find out the guy you hired was slightly manipulative with his resume. What would you first reaction be? Would it not be: what else did he omit/manipulate? Richard Reinders Bob Radvanovsky wrote: > > Here are your options that you have -- > > (1) Tell them the truth -- which, unfortunately, probably has not > worked for you. Companies don't want to hear what grief, pain and > anguish you have encountered over the past 2-3 years -- if so, stand > in line and queue up with all the other "loosers" wanting work (not my > attitude, but I have found this to be the attitude demonstrated by > large corporations). > > (2) Limit what you have listed on your resume. REMEMBER: you have to > "tailor" your resume to whatever industry you are applying for. I > know that this sounds like alot of work, and it is. But... doing so > will get you noticed, esp. when you don't have everything listed. If > they ask about the gaps, explain to them that you did contract work > for these companies and were on "benchtime". ;) Believe it or not, > this has worked for me... 8P > > P.S. If anyone wants someone who has pentest (penetration testing > analysis) experience against US military installations, please let me > know, and I will forward you my resume.
