I agree with Tres -- packet listeners will never do the trick (and that is why many of the commercial products today suck big time).
I'll look in to the mozilla links provided. Does anyone else have any thoughts on this? _________________ Patrick Lightbody Professional Services Jive Software [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.jivesoftware.com 317 SW Alder, Ste 500 Portland, OR 97204 ph (503) 295-6552 fx (503) 961-1047 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tres Seaver Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 9:11 AM To: selenium-devel@lists.public.thoughtworks.org Subject: [Selenium-devel] Re: Capturing events -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mike Williams wrote: > Patrick Lightbody wrote: > >> Has anyone given thought to a JavaScript/iframe combo (or FireFox >> plugin) that captures the clicks/events/etc by a user and records them >> as Selenium commands? It could start to get a little hairy (see example >> below), but would be very useful. > > > Ian Bicking wrote a Test recorder, though it was based on TCP snooping, > rather than integrated into Selenium: > > http://lists.public.thoughtworks.org/pipermail/selenium-devel/2005-March /000187.html Generating tests from "wire-protocal" recordings (the Zelenium Zope wrapper has a 'generator.py' module which does this as well) is never going to create a "satisfactory" test: the wire protocl is "lossy" with respect to the user's "gestures". E.g.: - It includes values for <input type="hidden"> fields, which th user never sees or manipulates. - It can't tell whether the user clicked a link, pushed a button, or hacked the URL bar, so it has to fall back to using the 'open' verb for every new page load. In such tests, a crucial aspect of the UI (navigability between the pages which make up the scenario) can't be tested. I think the mozdev folks are furthest along toward having the infrastructure which could record the "real" client-side gestures, e.g.: - http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/macroeditor - http://uzilla.mozdev.org/obzerver.html Tres. - -- =================================================================== Tres Seaver +1 202-558-7113 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software "Excellence by Design" http://palladion.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCxryM+gerLs4ltQ4RAjxVAKDaReULsiQxhSrlwXNAvzm/3G6PYwCgjzka RsChyMsjplQqDO8bmb8Tuxc= =QKZu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Selenium-devel mailing list Selenium-devel@lists.public.thoughtworks.org http://lists.public.thoughtworks.org/mailman/listinfo/selenium-devel _______________________________________________ Selenium-devel mailing list Selenium-devel@lists.public.thoughtworks.org http://lists.public.thoughtworks.org/mailman/listinfo/selenium-devel
