OK, point taken. It would be possible to accept "," as a separator at least 
when it is followed by some space, and to accept ";" in general. I will try 
to get this working for 1.0. 

-- Markus

On Dienstag, 16. Oktober 2007, Dan Thomas wrote:
> Thanks for the doc updates/template suggestion & I appreciate you entering
> this into the bug tracking system.  I concur with Sergey's observation that
> the proposed format is commonly used.  Dan
>
>
>
> On 10/16/07, Sergey Chernyshev <
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Actually, "38.926832, -77.03201" syntax is quite standard for technical
> > presentation of geocoordinates. I agree, that it's very American in using
> > "." for decimal separator, but it's standard de-facto (for example,
> > Google uses it in queries and I use it in GvsY tool in URLs:
> > http://www.sergeychernyshev.com/maps.html#49.008084,8.403756 ;) ).
> >
> > Another alternative is to use ";" as separator (I doubt somebody uses it
> > as decimal separator) so the result will be like this: "38,926832;
> > -77,03201", but I still think that checking if comma splits into only two
> > parts and then using previous example is best.
> >
> >      Sergey
> >
> > On 10/16/07, S Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Dan Thomas wrote:
> > > > It seems the degree symbol is required for SMW to recognize a
> > >
> > > geographic
> > >
> > > > coordinate.  US keyboards typically don't include this symbol making
> > > > entry difficult for end users.  I suggest supporting lat/long in
> > > > positive/negative decimal degrees as an alternative input form. 
> > > > e.g.; 38.926832, -77.03201 for Washington, DC.
> > >
> > > You can enter positive/negative decimal degrees in SMW 1.0 RC1, but
> > > you're right that you must provide the degree symbol ° or its HTML
> > > numeric entity code &#176;.  I filed enhancement bug 11679.
> > >
> > > I updated http://ontoworld.org/wiki/Type:Geographic_coordinate with, I
> > > believe, all the supported characters and separators.  You could tell
> > > users to copy and paste then modify a working format from that page.
> > >
> > > Changing the code to not requiring a degree symbol is tricky.  I think
> > > the code needs a degree symbol to give it something to split on.  Note
> > > that in some languages comma is also a decimal separator
> > > (smw_decseparator in the languages file) so you can't split into two
> > > parts on comma.  Is there some other standard compact format for
> > > coordinates?  Some tests are at
> > > http://ontoworld.org/wiki/Geographic_coordinate_test
> > > This isn't a regression from 0.7, it doesn't work there either.
> > >
> > > As a workaround you could use a template like
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Coord and insert the degree
> > > symbols in the semantic annotation it generates.
> > >
> > > You can't use the character entity reference for degree (&deg;) and
> > > some
> > >
> > > other entities and decimal references for minutes and seconds, which
> > > seems an accidental oversight.  I came up with a patch to
> > > SMW_DV_GeoCoords.php for that.
> > >
> > > --
> > > =S Page
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