Hi,
Ah yes - you have a point there, especially given that code change.
-Yaron
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:16 AM, don undeen <donund...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> re: having both "Has default form" and "Creates pages with form"
> I don't know to what degree you mean "shouldn't." If you're speaking of if
> the code supports this, it probably currently doesn't; it's a hack I added
> by commenting out one "return false" in
> SemanticForms\includes\SF_LinkUtils.php, in the setBrokenLink functions:
>
> static function setBrokenLink( $linker, $target, $options, $text,
> &$attribs, &$ret ) {
> if ( in_array( 'broken', $options ) ) {
> if ( self::createLinkedPage( $target ) ) {
> // commented out by donundeen
> // return true;
> }
> $link = self::formEditLink( $target );
> if ( $link != '' ) {
> $attribs['href'] = $link;
> }
> }
> return true;
> }
>
> * *I suppose it's possible some of my tweaks are causing some of my bugs,
> but if other people are having similar problems, it'll at least give me an
> idea of where to look for solutions.
>
>
> But in the other terms of "shouldn't," as in "there's no good reason to do
> that," I'd have to disagree. "Creates pages with form" adds rows to
> runjobs, so the page will get created at some point in the future, when that
> job runs. "Uses default form" means that page will get created when someone
> clicks that link, ie, right when they need it. I don't see any way that
> those two things should be mutually exclusive. The alternative is either:
> 1. Only use "Creates" : means while we're waiting for runJobs to do it's
> thing, people will have red links they can't do anything about. Worse,
> clicking on that will lead to a blank page, which they may then fill out.
> Meaning when runjobs happens, that page won't get created correctly.
> 2. Only use "default form" : means that someone will have to go manually
> and click all those red links to create the pages. That's not a viable
> option either.
>
> So I don't see why you wouldn't support both properties working. Especially
> since it seems to involve commenting out one "return false" in the code.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Yaron Koren <yaro...@gmail.com>
>
> *To:* don undeen <donund...@yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* smw dev list <semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> *Sent:* Wed, December 8, 2010 9:36:21 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [SMW-devel] Semantic forms not "Edit With Form"-ing?
>
> Hi,
>
> I don't know how much I can help you, since you're using a modified version
> of an older version of SF. Hopefully one of the SMW+ people can assist here.
> I do have one question, though: why do you have both "Has default form" and
> "Creates pages with form" set for the same property? That shouldn't be done,
> as far as I know.
>
> -Yaron
>
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 6:49 PM, don undeen <donund...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> ok, so I ran a bunch of tests, and it seems like,
>> if I add a new "highlights object" object number, and that page doesn't
>> exist yet, then the category for that page doesn't get registered, or
>> disappears from the categorylinks table, and I don't get an "Edit with form"
>> link.
>>
>> that "Highlights Object" property is one that "creates pages with form"
>> AND "has default form" so there's a lot going on there that could cause
>> screwy behaviour, I bet.
>>
>> However, once I do a runJobs, which automatically creates that page, and I
>> re-save the original page, I get the categorylinks entry back.
>>
>> this seems like a strange edge case, but still, it indicates some wierd
>> interactions in the code...
>>
>> Don
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* don undeen <donund...@yahoo.com>
>> *To:* don undeen <donund...@yahoo.com>; smw dev list <
>> semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> *Sent:* Wed, December 8, 2010 6:01:51 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [SMW-devel] Semantic forms not "Edit With Form"-ing?
>>
>> to add a little more detail:
>> I was lookign at the categorylinks table, and noticed that the category
>> information for the new article is dropped, after the page is saved again,
>> or if I do a runJobs after editing the template (hence causing a
>> SMWUpdatejob)
>>
>> Any idea why that would happen? Maybe there's an erro in my template code?
>> I can't figure it out.
>> Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks very much!
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* don undeen <donund...@yahoo.com>
>> *To:* smw dev list <semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> *Sent:* Wed, December 8, 2010 5:33:40 PM
>> *Subject:* [SMW-devel] Semantic forms not "Edit With Form"-ing?
>>
>> Hey guys,
>> I've got a simple semantic form and template, which I can use successfully
>> to create a new page.
>> Then, I can click "Edit With Form" and edit (or not) and re-save the page.
>> However, once I've done that, I can no longer "Edit with form"; the link
>> isn't there, and when I try to just enter the original "edit form form"
>> link, I'm told it's not a valid URL.
>>
>> Any idea what could be going on?
>> Version Info (the latest supported by SMWHalo):
>> MW 1.15.3
>> SF 1.9.1_1 (w/ halo patches)
>> Header Table 0.6.6
>> SMW 1.5.1_1 (w/ halo patches)
>> SMWHalo *Version 1.5.1_4-for-SMW-1.5.1 [B47]
>>
>>
>> My Form Code is:
>> <noinclude>
>> This is the "Thematic Tour" form.
>> To create a page with this form, enter the page name below;
>> if a page with that name already exists, you will be sent to a form to
>> edit that page.
>>
>>
>> {{#forminput:form=Thematic Tour}}
>> </noinclude><includeonly>
>> {{{info|add title=Add a new Thematic Tour|page name=<Thematic
>> Tour[Thematic Tour Name]>}}}
>>
>> <div id="wikiPreview" style="display: none; padding-bottom: 25px;
>> margin-bottom: 25px; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAAAAA;"></div>
>> {{{for template|Thematic Tour}}}
>> {| class="formtable"
>> ! Thematic Tour Name:
>> | {{{field|Thematic Tour Name}}}
>> |-
>> ! Highlights Objects:
>> | {{{field|Highlights Objects|autocomplete from url=met_objects}}}
>> |-
>> ! Related Activities:
>> | {{{field|Related Activities|input type=textarea}}}
>> |}
>> {{{end template}}}
>>
>> '''Free text:'''
>>
>> {{{standard input|free text|rows=10}}}
>>
>>
>> {{{standard input|summary}}}
>>
>> {{{standard input|minor edit}}} {{{standard input|watch}}}
>>
>> {{{standard input|save}}} {{{standard input|preview}}} {{{standard
>> input|changes}}} {{{standard input|cancel}}}
>> </includeonly>
>>
>> And My template code is:
>> <noinclude>
>> This is the "Thematic Tour" template.
>> It should be called in the following format:
>> <pre>
>> {{Thematic Tour
>> |Thematic Tour Name=
>> |Highlights Objects=
>> }}
>> </pre>
>> Edit the page to see the template text.
>> </noinclude><includeonly>
>> __SHOWFACTBOX__
>>
>> {| class="wikitable"
>> ! Thematic Tour Name
>> | [[ThematicTourName::{{{Thematic Tour Name|}}}]]
>> |-
>> ! Highlights Objects
>> | {{#arraymap:{{{Highlights Objects|}}}|,|x|[[HighlightsObject::x]]}}
>> |-
>> ! Related Activities
>> | {{{Related Activities|}}}
>> |}
>>
>> [[Category:Thematic Tour]]
>> </includeonly>
>>
>> Any Ideas?
>>
>> Thanks all!
>>
>> *
>>
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