On 15/03/11 17:39, Jeroen De Dauw wrote:
> Hey,
>
> Instead of extending the array-based parameter definitions used now, I
> think it makes a lot of sense to use the Validator extension for that.
> Originally it also had an array-based approach, but this gets really
> messy, complex and hard to understand as you add more things to it. Now
> each parameter is an object that can easily be extended.
>
> Loose from that I think the addition of the parameter definitions in the
> first place is a very good idea (awesome job Yaron :) that opens up
> quite some possibilities. They area already used in the Ask UI, but can
> also be used for validation of parameter values, automatic creation of
> documentation and feedback to the user when making a query with an
> invalid value for some parameter. (And probably other things that I
> can't think of right now.)
>
> Obviously this introduces a dependency and some work to modify the
> current handling of these parameter definitions (and preserving b/c),
> but the alternative, as I see it, is really to end up with stuff that's
> harder to use than it needs to be and that's limiting in what you can do
> with it.

I tend to agree. Before we approach this from scratch: Would it make 
sense for SMW to use Validator? Could this also simplify our code?

Regards,

Markus

>
>
> On 15 March 2011 18:02, Yaron Koren <ya...@wikiworks.com
> <mailto:ya...@wikiworks.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     Right - although "limit=" does get used in regular #ask queries
>     (pretty often, actually), so I think it makes sense to define it as
>     a real parameter with its own input.
>
>     The idea of having defined parameters that don't get displayed in
>     the Special:Ask form is an interesting one. I guess the real
>     question is what the values of getParameters() get used for - if
>     it's only to display that Special:Ask form, then having "hidden
>     parameters" might still make sense, but it's not really
>     high-priority. But if getParameters() gets used for anything else,
>     then the idea definitely starts to makes sense.
>
>     -Yaron
>
>
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