Hi,
Okay - well, that sounds like it's only relevant if the annotations are
free-form - if they're done via templates instead, there's no real danger of
either confusion or unintentional modifications. But I understand your
point.
-Yaron
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Laurent Alquier <laur...@alquier.org>wrote:
> I was speaking theoretically - I don't have a practical example but I can
> imagine automatically building annotations from other sources, with values
> that we may not necessarily want to show on a wiki page.
>
> For example, aliases or mappings of a page name to internal IDs in several
> databases. You would need this type of annotation to do further queries and
> you would currently implement that with 'silent' annotations somewhere on
> the page (or in a template).
>
> It could be useful to move them in a related page in a separate namespace
> to both avoid confusing casual editors of the page and prevent manual edits
> of these annotations.
>
> - Laurent
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Yaron Koren <ya...@wikiworks.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm confused about a few things - John:
>>
>> - what do you mean by "logical properties" and "presentation properties"?
>> - what's a "spo statement"?
>>
>> And Laurent - what would be an example of a "complex, arcane annotation"?
>>
>> -Yaron
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:02 PM, John McClure <jmccl...@hypergrove.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm you raise some interesting possibilities however it seems that a
>>> generic capability to store spo triples about any wikipage is much more
>>> ambitious than what I'm suggesting. In my proposal, queries do not change
>>> whatsoever; howebver the SH approach would involve compound queries, first
>>> of the subject-page's own triples, and then of the other-namespace-page's
>>> set of triples to identify those whose subject is the subject-page. That
>>> said, your suggestion is an absolute requirement for instance in the legal
>>> arena whose documents have nothing BUT spo statements (albeit couched in
>>> lovely legalese) that is of course, if one is not interested in documents
>>> being the result of a massive number of cascading transclusions!!! Thanks
>>> for your thoughts. John
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> *From:* lalqu...@gmail.com [mailto:lalqu...@gmail.com]*On Behalf Of *Laurent
>>> Alquier
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2011 2:19 PM
>>> *To:* jmccl...@hypergrove.com
>>> *Cc:* Yaron Koren; semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> *Subject:* Re: [SMW-devel] Talkspace Semantics
>>>
>>> I can see a use for this sort of thing with any automated annotation
>>> application.
>>>
>>> It would be nice to have a way to store complex, arcane annotations
>>> without overloading the wiki page itself.
>>>
>>> It doesn't have to be in the talk page, maybe a separate name space
>>> altogether, but being able to extend annotations of one page to the same
>>> page in a different name space could have some benefits.
>>>
>>> A practical example is the Semantic History extension :
>>> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SemanticHistory
>>>
>>> Having these annotations in a separate namespace and still related to the
>>> original page would help.
>>>
>>> - Laurent
>>>
>>>
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