Hi Yaron, thanks for your reply.
I am saying indeed there's a /very very good reason/ to install both Cargo and SMW, today. Several persons asked about any use case that might exist, today, for a Cargo+SMW wiki ... I've identified a valuable, important service that Cargo provides that SMW does not
... thank you for developing Cargo for this reason!

Thanks also for the comment about Wikibase - I didnt think much about Cargo vs Wikibase until last night I note that Cargo+Wikibase makes sense for the very same reason: silo integration ... though I do now think Cargo is more a Wikibase competitor (in monolingual wikis), given neither supports ontologies. ... soon, SMW's direct support for ontologies will be a crystal clear difference SMW enjoys in future software comparisons!

cheers/john
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On 1/16/2015 2:29 PM, Yaron Koren wrote:
Hi John,

I'm not going to answer the use case question, since I'm not sure that any good can come of answering it. :) If you want to provide your own answer to the question, that's fine.

As for Wikibase, there's no shared code between Cargo between Wikibase; and there's no relationship between them, other than both having in some sense been inspired by SMW.

-Yaron

On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:58 PM, John McClure <jmccl...@hypergrove.com <mailto:jmccl...@hypergrove.com>> wrote:

    Hello Yaron,
    Funny, but I've not seen any use case detailed for the Cargo
    extension.
    Eliminating (what is perceived) to be SMW's code complexity, is
    *not* a use case per se.

        *Use Case. ...*a list of steps, typically defining
        interactions between a role...  and a system, to achieve a goal.

    So I think of two use cases for which Cargo is a candidate solution

     1. An organization does /not/ want to install SMW, but wants to
        query structured wikipage content
     2. An organizaton wants to interface separate SQL database
        applications, one being MW with structured content

    The first use case is not directly interesting to the SMW community
    -- although it IS of real interest that stable & supported
    Wikibase is not ever noted as a competitive solution
    -- and why/whether Wikibase query printers (or any other modules)
    have any relationship to Cargo

    The second use case gets to headaches with silo-ed systems, that
    is, systems not sharing a common repository
    -- enter data to system A, a/synchronously update system B, and
    vice versa
    -- change system A data stored in system B, a/synchronously update
    system A, and vice versa

    It's the "a/synchronously update..." part that is a hair-pulling
    pain in the arse for IT depts, right?
    therefore
    ---> Cargo creates & maintains a common repository between
    otherwise silo-ed applications

    So, is this a (or, the /only/) use case for Cargo being installed
    alongside SMW?
    And, please, is there a relationship between Cargo & Wikibase?

    thanks for comments/john

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