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can't you discover
conflicts during the save of the page. reject the save if a conflicting
triplet exists somewhere else? Well, let me start by saying that I still disagree with the idea of place-anywhere semantic triples, for the reason I expressed earlier: you can easily have information conflicts. I couldn't follow everything that was being said before, but I think most of the discussion was about being able to *display* and *edit* the information from a lot of different pages, not *store* it in different pages.That said, the example you give now is much more reasonable than the example you had before (where data about a U.S. state was placed in the page of someone who lives there). In fact, it's a perfectly reasonable example: sometimes giving sub-data their own pages is too much work. The solution for this is not arbitrary triples but n-ary relations, which define a sub-component, itself composed of triples, and then a relation between the main page and the sub-component. n-ary relations aren't yet supported by Semantic MediaWiki, but they could be and I really think they should be; see the email thread from April 15 to see my summary of the discussion, and thoughts on the issue. I'm curious to hear what you, or anyone else, has to say about it. -Y On 5/4/07, Kelly Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:There are a lot of semantic wikis out there, but I really like Mediawiki and want a semantic wiki that has all of its features. I've tried Semantic Mediawiki, but dislike its one major limitation: on page X, you can only create triples starting with X. I'm sure this works well when importing semantic data into a wiki, but doesn't work so well when you're creating a wiki from scratch. Example: for each book in a series, I'm creating a book page, and listing characters in the book: * [[Galder Weatherwax]], male human [[wizard]] * [[Buggy Swires]], male [[gnome]] * [[Lackjaw]], dwarf jeweler * [[Weems]], male human [[mercenary]] born in [[Morpork]] I'd like to semantically annotate this data, example: Weems appears_in (bookname) Weems birthplace Morpork Weems race human Weems gender male Weems occupation mercenary Semantic Mediawiki requires me to create a separate page for each character, which quickly becomes a depth-first nightmare. Is there a Mediawiki extension that will let me do this? I know there are arguments against this sort of thing (eg, data consistency), but I think the benefit outweighs the risk. I'm tempted to use Mediawiki hooks to write something myself, but wanted to check for existing extensions first. -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Semediawiki-user mailing list Semediawiki-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Semediawiki-user mailing list Semediawiki-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user --
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