Hi, Thanks for kicking off the discussion on Ontoworld; I plan to add my own thoughts there soon.
On the issues you've presented here, I think a big part of the confusion comes from trying to view all content as potential semantic data. Obviously an article about Reagan's presidency could mention his friendship with Thatcher, and other things that happened during those years. But given that they're not properties of the presidency itself, they wouldn't be semantic fields in that article; and maybe they shouldn't be semantic fields at all. As with many other things in information architecture, there's a certain art to figuring out the best place to put things, and phrase them; and a lot depends on what the wiki is intended for. For the presidency's end date, though, I think the solution is easier: replace "left office on date" with "ended on date". -Yaron On 5/14/07, Raving <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > A new question occurred to me today, based on a peripheral comment at > http://ontoworld.org/wiki/Talk:N-ary_relations . (I post > there as Stormraven.) > > Let's say I have a lengthy article about a prominent person; the talk page > uses Ronald Reagan for various examples. And within that article there is a > section that's lengthy enough to break out into its own article, such as > "Presidency of Ronald Reagan." Now, within that article there might be > several relations that properly take Ronald Reagan as the subject, but now > that they're in the new article, they take Presidency of Ronald Reagan as > the subject, like "friend of" --> Margaret Thatcher or "left office on date" > --> January 20, 1989. > > These relations are now misplaced. To solve the problem, I could use > common, non-annotated links in the "Presidency of Ronald Reagan" article and > put the relations back into the Ronald Reagan article, but they'd be > empty-piped links (such as [[friend of::Margaret Thatcher| ]] ) because they > don't relate to any links or other text remaining in the article. And > there'd probably be a lot of them, a whole cluster of empty-piped links > related to information no longer contained in the article. Or I can leave > them in the new article, leading to the semantic interpretation that the > presidency of Ronald Reagan left office in 1989 (which almost makes sense) > and that Lady Thatcher was a friend of the presidency of Ronald Reagan > (which really doesn't make much sense at all). > > Is there a way to redirect relations to their proper subjects in such a > situation? > > Wes > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-user mailing list > Semediawiki-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Semediawiki-user mailing list Semediawiki-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user
