Adding to my earlier comment...

It is interesting that you have just done this, despite numerous
arguments about why/how it could not or should not be done.  I was never
competent to evaluate those arguments from a programmer/ software
engineer's perspective, but I never bought them from a user perspective.

This raises some questions: 
* how to you address those arguments? (from past forum entries)
* are there any tradeoffs from a user or developer's perspective? (which
in a sense patially validate those arguments)

Thanks
Michael 


-----Original Message-----
From: Uschold, Michael F 
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 12:25 PM
To: Kelly Jones; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Subject: Re: [swikig] semarbtri help request

FANTASTIC!  Kudos to you for figuring out a way to do this. 

Here's an idea: why not integrate the triples viewing capabilities of
Similes' Exhibit (http://simile.mit.edu/exhibit/) into the bottom of the
Semantic Media Wiki page as an alternative to the table of triples.
Possibly as a link to a separate window, or possibly embedded into the
wiki page itself (which may be much harder).

Michael  


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-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 5:37 PM
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Subject: [swikig] semarbtri help request

I've now created a test site for a semantic MediaWiki that lets you put
the triple (x,R,y) anywhere, not just on page x:

http://semarbtri.kgprog.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

The code is available:

http://semarbtri.kgprog.com/SemArbTri.txt

The syntax for a triple is "[[x::R::y]]" (or just "[[R::y]]" if you're
already on page x).

Broken things I'd like help with:

% When editing an existing page, all the semantic info vanishes.
Compare:

http://semarbtri.kgprog.com/wiki/index.php/The_Light_Fantastic
http://semarbtri.kgprog.com/wiki/index.php?title=The_Light_Fantastic&act
ion=edit

The first page has semantic info, the second doesn't. My extension does
have a "in edit mode, don't display semantic data" comment + some
supporting code, but commenting out this code doesn't help.

% When editing a new page, semantic info is visible, but unformatted:

http://semarbtri.kgprog.com/wiki/index.php?title=Wizard&action=edit

% If I try to protect against spammers by adding this to
LocalSettings.php:

$wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false;

the semantic info disappears when you're viewing new (non-existent)
pages. I've commented this setting out for now (so I can't give an
example page of where this happens), but I'd like to get this fixed.

% Minor: my code breaks the "nowiki" tag (so the main page says
"((x::R::y))" instead of "[[x::R::y]]" when giving an example)

% Minor: weird empty semantic triple at the bottom of some pages:

http://semarbtri.kgprog.com/wiki/index.php/Troll

(am I doing the MySQL SELECT wrong?)

% These are the "big" errors. There are many smaller errors + lots of
features I want to add.

Any volunteers? No CVS or anything yet (the sf.net page is not
up-to-date), but please send suggestions/code improvements.

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