Thanks.

I'm not familiar with "the usual trick of indirection". Are there some
nice pointers to explanations and examples of how it can be used to
accomplish varoius things?

Thanks
Michael  


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-----Original Message-----
From: Danny Ayers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 2:44 AM
To: Uschold, Michael F
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; semediawiki-user@lists.sourceforge.net;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Clark, Peter E; Kitzmiller, Ted; Jones,
David H; Folger, Deborah H; Murray, William R
Subject: Re: [swikig] Semantics of MW Categories and OWL

On 04/08/07, Uschold, Michael F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> SUMMARY:
>
> The semantics of categories in Media Wiki seems to be too general, so 
> that it is not amenable to linking up with OWL.

With OWL DL, I believe you're right. But this doesn't rule out using
parts of OWL (e.g. <categoryA> owl:sameAs <categoryB>) under OWL Full.

It may be possible to apply the usual trick of indirection to get around
the problem you describe. I've not looked closely, but categories could
perhaps be wrapped into SKOS [1] concepts, so the reasoning would be
over properties like broader/narrower, without the potential
inconsistencies brought on through using subclass relationships
directly. (Not unrelated is the Tag Ontology [2] which uses SKOS to
cover folksonomy tagging).

I don't believe it's going to solve the kind of problem you describe
overnight (especially since there appear to be other aspects that are
further from RDF/RDFS) but there may be hope on the horizon with OWL
1.1:
[[
In OWL 1.1 a name (such as Person) can be used as any or all of an
individual, a class, or a property. The computational problems that
would arise if this were treated as in RDF are avoided by ensuring that
no aspect of the use of the name as an individual has any effect on the
meaning of the name as a class. Such a treatment of metamodeling is
often called punning.
]]
http://www.w3.org/Submission/2006/SUBM-owl11-overview-20061219/#2.4

Cheers,
Danny.

[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-skos-core-guide/
[2] http://www.holygoat.co.uk/projects/tags/

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