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pg> Ambassador Kosnett, welcome.

Thank you. It is a great honor and privilege to return to Kosovo as the
Ambassador of the United States.

First of all, let me express our condolences to you upon the passing of
President George H. W. Bush.

Thank you for that Xhevdet. I had the privilege of meeting President Bush
only once, many years ago, and I feel the same way that everyone in my
country does. He was a great leader, a man of honor who has earned his place
in history, and I know that he was also a great friend of Kosovo.

A great supporter to Kosovo too. Thank you. Ambassador, Kosovo has changed
since you have worked here in 2003. At this point where Kosovo stands, it
had huge support from the US. Do you think that Kosovo could still count on
U.S. policy?

Absolutely. The United States has considered Kosovo to be a great success
story. We have said that it’s a success story for the United States, but
most importantly it’s a success story for the people of Kosovo. I can tell
you that in the months I spent in Washington preparing for this assignment,
I met with many people in the government, in Congress, as well as outside
the government, and I think America’s commitment to Kosovo’s future is
unshakeable. In fact, I would say, that it is an area where there is
complete consensus between Republicans and Democrats—between the government,
the administration and the Congress. Everybody feels that Kosovo is a very
close friend of the United States and we are deeply committed to supporting
Kosovo.

Ambassador, in what fields will your commitment be focused with your mandate
in Kosovo?

There are a lot of issues where the Embassy will continue to work very
closely with our Kosovo friends. Economic security is critical in foreign
investment and job creation. We are also focused on rule of law and
countering corruption, which remains a very high priority for us. Then there
is the issue of security. Security has many meanings and many aspects.
Certainly, at the top of the agenda is supporting the efforts of leaders in
Kosovo and in Serbia to find a way forward on the Dialogue, to achieve a
mutually beneficial solution that will help both governments’ prosperity and
security in the future. Also in terms of security, we continue to work very
closely with Kosovo on counter-terrorism, countering violent extremism—a
range of security related issues.

How up, Ambassador, is Kosovo ranked in U.S. foreign affairs today?

It is a very high priority. In fact, I would say that the current
administration in Washington is more interested in supporting, not just
Kosovo but also progress in the Balkan region, than I have seen in many
years. This is an administration that looks at longstanding problems and
says: we need to shake things up—we need to find a way forward.

Ambassador, Kosovo is facing new challenges now, as we said, mostly with
relations with Serbia. There have been discussions between two states in
Brussels. Not much progress, sometimes with the tensions as we are talking
now. These days they are probably facing the lowest point of their
relations, since after the start of dialogue. The Government of Kosovo
decided to come to a decision that Serbian goods must pay 100% of taxes in
order to enter Kosovo. What is your opinion when it comes to this decision?

This would be a good time for me to remind your viewers that I have been
back in Kosovo for less than a week, so at this point I want to listen to
lots of people and get their input before I start making a lot of big
declarations. Having said that, I do believe, and my government believes,
that this is a critical moment in the Dialogue process. That it is important
for Kosovo and Serbia to approach this process in a spirit of cooperation. I
understand the challenges of that—I know the country’s history, but in a
spirit of cooperation and creativity to find a way forward. When we speak of
the Dialogue in Washington, we’re talking about a comprehensive discussion
of all the issues that have separated the two countries for many years. What
we need to see is a process that ends with agreement that benefits both
countries.

We all negotiate in our daily lives. We negotiate with our families, with
our neighbors, business people negotiate: it is not only governments and
diplomats that negotiate. But one thing that I think that is critical to a
successful negotiation is that it has to be beneficial to both parties so
that both parties have an incentive to fulfill their obligations, to
maintain the agreement, to move forward. Any agreement between Kosovo and
Serbia needs to be durable, it needs to be sustainable, and it needs to,
again, to benefit both countries.  I think sometimes people enter into
negotiations in the spirit that, I am going to win this negotiation—I’m
going to defeat the other side. When you do that, it is really, very hard to
have the sort of trust that is necessary to see that a negotiation is
successfully implemented. Last point there, when we speak about the
implementation of agreements, the United States is deeply focused on the
future of Kosovo, but also on stability in the entire Balkan region. We have
every reason to want to stay by your side to make sure that if governments
make commitments, they abide by them. We are not just going to applaud while
a piece of paper is signed and then move on to the next crisis.

The government of Kosovo took this measure Mr. Ambassador, as I said, after
the failure of entering Interpol, but they also say it is a reflection of
Serbia’s ongoing obstructions towards Pristina, and because of Belgrade not
respecting the earlier signed agreements.

I think that both governments have taken steps to show that they have
levers—that they have tools they can use against the other side. Both
governments have shown that we can be tough—we can stand up for ourselves.
Frankly, what I’d rather see, not a competition to see who can be toughest,
but a competition to see who can be most creative and most forward-looking
in trying to find a way forward. I think it is very common in negotiations
to hit obstacles, to reach a difficult stage, and then the two parties will
retreat to their corners and think about what to do next. I know that some
people are concerned that the Dialogue process is at a tough stage—this is
pretty normal in negotiations. You go forward, you take a step back, you go
forward again. I do think it is important that the negotiating strategy and
negotiating position of Kosovo reflect a wide range of political opinion and
a wide range of popular opinion. In that regard, and I am sure we’ll come
back to this, the United States thinks it’s important that every voice in
Kosovo is heard. That members of all communities, all political parties,
women as well as men, have a stake in the future of the country and feel
that their voice is heard and respected.

Lately in Kosovo there have been words, Ambassador, about the possible final
agreement between Pristina and Belgrade. In one side we have President’s
commitment to reach the final agreement with Serbia with possible, as he
says, border correction. In the other hand political opposition that
strongly disagree about anything that has to do with the border. The
Dialogue with Serbia seems like it is stopped for now, as we said, or there
is tension.  How do you think they could find a political will to continue
discussions? Do you think that a future agreement between these two
countries might also touch the border issue?

I think some people have the misunderstanding that the United States has
been pressing for a shift to the border or an exchange of territory. As my
superiors in Washington have tried to make clear: what we are interested in
is an agreement that is negotiated in good faith by the two sides.  The
United State does not have any preconceptions about what a comprehensive
Dialogue agreement might entail. It might be that the two sides decide –
honestly in good faith – to make an adjustment to the border. They may very
well decide not to, and believe me, I understand the depth of concern, the
historical reasons why adjusting the border is very complicated. And again,
I want to emphasize, my government is not pushing for that. We do not
necessarily see that as a key to the dialogue. I think that a great deal of
discussion of the Dialogue has focused on that. I think discussion of the
border is only one aspect of the wide range of discussion that has to take
place between the two countries. It has also has to touch on economic
cooperation, security, culture, education, justice, very much justice – the
wide range of issues that the two governments need to speak about, and it is
important not to fixate on only one aspect of the problem.

Just to clarify this, Ambassador. There had also been voices, as we said,
about a territorial exchange between two parts. Will this be acceptable for
the United State, if the two countries decide to do that?

So, we have tried to make clear that we do not have any preconceptions. We
are not saying that certain issues should not be discussed and we are not
saying that certain outcomes are required. Serbia and Kosovo are the
negotiating partners. These are two sovereign, independent nations. We are
always going to support Kosovo. By support Kosovo, I do not mean that we are
going to blindly agree to any idea that comes out of the government in
Pristina. But, we are going to support Kosovo in the effort to establish
peace, prosperity, justice in the country and in the region. We do not see
those goals as contradictory to a broader goal – wanting the same things for
other countries in the region. I think it is important to emphasize that we
are standing by to support the parties to come to a sustainable, mutually
beneficial conclusion, but we are not writing the script.

Right. Ambassador, people are getting tired of this situation. Prolonged
discussions seem to never end. How long do you think that this situation
should continue for?

I would be reluctant to suggest any sort of timeline or deadline for the
discussion, but I do think that time is of the essence, that it is important
to move forward as quickly as possible, and frankly, that’s because – as I
said earlier – my government is really focused on making progress in the
region now. You have our full attention, our full support. It is a great
opportunity and I don’t think that anybody, either side, or the people of
either country has anything to gain by delaying a process of negotiation. I
think that the time to do anything is usually right now.

Kosovo’s government and population seem also to be frustrated from the EU
stand towards Pristina. They have been promised visa liberalization and now,
suddenly, the EU, as we saw, is not prepared for such a decision. Do you
think that this has increased tensions in Kosovo? Young population that
cannot move freely like others in Europe.

I do think that the frustration over the current status of visa
liberalization is an indication that people of Kosovo want to strengthen
their ties to the West. That is where they see their future. We certainly
support that, we agree with that. We think that closer ties between Kosovo
and the European Union is something that is very much in the interest of the
United States, as well as the people of Kosovo. I have been struck in the
short time I have been back by the amazing young people that I’m meeting.
People with education, with skills, with a very broad European and global
perspective who have an enormous amount to contribute to their own country
and to the world. They want to be able to do that here, but also in other
countries. I suspect that the more that young people in Kosovo are able to
travel, to study, to work in other countries, and then in many cases to come
back to Kosovo to contribute here – that will be wonderful for the country.
I am not going to get into what is the right timing for visa liberalization
and so on, but I am encouraged that people in this country look to the West
and look to the European Union.

What is your opinion about Kosovo Serbs? Let’s talk about them a little, as
we talked about Kosovo and Serbia relations. We also have Serbian
population, in Kosovo.  They seem to be a part, every time, of Kosovo’s
government, but they are always influenced by Belgrade. Do you think this
help Kosovo’s Serb to build their future here, in Kosovo?

I think it is important for everyone in the country – every community in the
country to feel that it is their country and that they have a future here
and that their voices are heard and they’re role is respected. You know,
America like Kosovo is a very diverse country. We have people from all
religions, different ethnic groups, different races and a very complicated
history, as people know. We do not have all the answers for how people
should live in a multi-ethnic society. I think we have gotten better at
asking the questions – at honestly talking about our history and
understanding its necessary to examine a country’s history, in order to move
forward into the future. And, in that regard I’d like to say that I think
that it is important that all of the members of all of the minority groups
feel that they have a voice and that they are equal participants in the
country. That is an area where I look forward to making friends and hearing
perspectives from all communities.

Do you thing that they should look more towards Pristina rather than
Belgrade so that this way they might feel that this is their country?

I think this is kind of circular. The more comfortable people feel, the more
they feel like their voice matters, like this truly is their country, the
less they might take their cues from outside.

Kosovo’s institutions are preparing to give to KSF – a hot topic, these days
–a functional army mandate. Does Washington support this step?

Washington has consistently supported the development of the KSF and the
development of the KSF into Armed Forces. The United States has invested a
lot of money; we have spent time on training; we’ve done exchanges between
KSF and U.S. military. We think that the KSF‘s evolution into Kosovo Armed
Forces is a positive step and that it is only natural for Kosovo as a
sovereign, independent country to have a self-defense capability. Also,
Kosovo’s leaders have talked about how the Kosovo Armed Forces could
participate in peace-keeping operations overseas. That Kosovo has reached
the point where instead of only being a consumer of international security
that it can contribute to it. This is all welcome. Now, it is long process.
I know that people – some people in neighboring countries have fixated on a
certain date that is coming up very soon and have expressed concerns that
the evolution of the KSF into the Armed Forces could have negative
implications for security. What I will say about that is: this is a process
that will take many years. That Kosovo has every reason, every right to have
a self–defense capability. The most important point I want to leave you with
is if there are people who genuinely believe that Kosovo’s Police, Security
Forces, Armed Forces—with any label—pose a threat to regional security, I
think that’s another indicator of the importance of Dialogue. I think that
it is important for people in both countries to understand the perspective
of the other side. Because when you are not communicating, all sorts of
fears will rise to the surface and people always fear what they do not
understand.

Do you agree that Kosovo government can pass the law on 14th – let’s say
they mentioned the date of December – about the transforming the KSF into
Army? It takes time as they say, it’s going to take 10 years for the proper
Army to be formed.

That’s exactly the point, Xhevdet. Whether they pass this law or change the
patches on their shoulders of the personnel on a certain date, is not the
most important thing. What’s important is that it’ll be a long, sustainable
process and, moreover, that as the Armed Forces are established – which
again, is a long process—that it be multiethnic. It is important for members
of the Serb community and other communities to participate in a big way in
the Armed Forces as they have in the KSF and in the Police. Because, this is
an experience that we’ve had in my country, that it’s important for the
people in the community to see that the people in uniform represent them and
not just some outside force.

How can economic relations between Kosovo and U.S. improve?  Do you think
that Kosovo can be a suitable place for U.S. investments, for companies to
invest in? Did you ever think if you could contribute in this field?

I think that encouraging American investment is a very high priority for the
U.S. Embassy and for the U.S. Government. We have seen some small-scale
investment already.  It is been very important. You see these American food
franchises around the country now and you say: ok, that is great, people
enjoy that, I enjoy it. It is fairly small-scale, but American businesses
watch to see what the food franchises are doing because, the food franchises
are famous for doing very careful research on a country before they enter a
market. When companies see – oh, Domino’s, famous Famiglia, Kentucky are in
Kosovo, that moves Kosovo closer to the top in their planning. That is
important. We support the Counter Global proposal for a new power plant,
which, we think, will have enormous benefits, not just for the environment,
but also for economic stability and development.

Let me put it this way: when we speak of the different areas where our
countries cooperate; when we speak of regional stability; when we speak of
rule of law and anti-corruption; when we speak of economic development,
these different areas are all closely intertwined.  American companies want
to see legal system where everybody is treated equally. American companies
want to know that if they get into dispute with a local partner, for
example, that they would be treated fairly. American companies spend a lot
of attention on looking at what we call risk analysis. They look at the
regional stability and they are sometimes reluctant to invest in a country
where they see ethnic tensions, or tensions between the country and its
neighbors. I am completely confident that as Kosovo and Serbia improve
relations; move towards normalization; recognition; towards respectful,
neighborly relations; as Kosovo continues not just to pass laws on
anti-corruption which is important and which I applaud, but is able to
implement them fairly and consistently—then American companies and other
companies will see Kosovo as an increasingly attractive location to invest.

Ambassador Kosnett, thank you very much for being with us.

It’s my great pleasure. It’s good to be back.


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