!^@$%^&%! the SE-R looks good. let me rephrase that: the INTERIOR looks 
good, and the engine performance is fantastic!! yeah, as someone else 
mentioned in another post, first glance at the car i thought it was  a 
mustang = (. the rear lightlamps and wings remain dorky looking,but...the 
engine performance and interior styling makes up for it. now we know some 
specs and that it's available in fall 2001, but 2 questions still not 
answered:

   1. how much for either trimline?

   2. what colors are available in each trimline?!

  the v-spec type should outdo the new celica no prob...feel sorry for those 
guys who rushed out and bought one.....doh
  if i had the re$ource$ i'd get the v-spec and ditch the wing. i swear, on 
one of the pics on fresh alloy, it looked like----could it be?------leather 
interior???! anyone know about this? i know the base SE-R will have 'special 
fabric', non leather, but what bout the v-spec?

-mike m.
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