I would point out that hypotension is being used in two ways here.  The
first that you point out, SBP < 90 or MAP < 65 (also SBP drop by > 40 mm
Hg) is to diagnose an organ dysfunction (cardiovascular).  The second
use of BP is as a target for resuscitation, and you are correct that MAP
> 65 mm Hg is the target.  There isn't really a disconnect; just two
different reasons for looking at BP.  Both definitions are valid.  And
what data we have on resuscitation targets pertains to achieving a MAP
of 65 or greater. 

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>>> "Jackson, Tina" <[email protected]> 2/14/2012 4:39 PM >>>

Sepsis is the ONE shock in which I teach my nurses to look at MAP. It
is a vasodilatory shock & if their systolic is 90 but diastolic is 30
they are not getting perfusion due to inadequate MAP.
Hope this helps. 
   

Tina Jackson MSN, RN, CCRN 
Clinical Nurse Educator 
Holy Spirit Health System 
Camp Hill, Pa. 17011 
717-763-2428 
cell 713-8891 
[email protected] 
  

   

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Kristine Lundeen
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 12:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Sepsis Groups] hypotension - is it all equal? 

  
The Surviving Sepsis Campaign (SSC), defines hypotension as SBP < 90 or
MAP < 65
(http://www.survivingsepsis.org/files/Tools/evaluationforseveresepsisscreeningtool.pdf)
when screening a patient for severe sepsis. However, in the sepsis
resuscitation bundle, one of the four standards to measure quality of
fluid resuscitation is whether or not MAP is > 65. Interestingly, they
do not specify that SBP be > 90, only MAP > 65. 
(http://www.survivingsepsis.org/About_the_Campaign/Documents/2008%20Guidelines%20Poster.pdf
and
http://www.survivingsepsis.org/Bundles/Individual_Changes/Pages/apply_vasopressors.aspx).

  
In the context of SSC sepsis resuscitation, all hypotension (SBP < 90
or MAP < 65) does not seem to be equal. It appears that SSC uses MAP,
not SBP, as the hemodynamic parameter to consider, when measuring the
effectiveness of fluid and vasopressor resuscitation. 
  
How do providers on this list serve practice? Do you consider the
patient with MAP < 65 as hypotensive, even it her/his SBP is > 90? Is
there a risk of hypoperfusion of end organs, if MAP is still < 65 while
SBP > 90? 
  
Kristine 
   
Kristine Lundeen, RN, MN 
MultiCare Health System, Tacoma, WA 
Office:  253-403-1164 
  
  
   

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