Very valid point.                                   To whom does the septic 
patient belong?                                          Where should be a 
septic patient treated?
The septic patient belongs to intensivist  Ownership should be with ICU team.
This will give them much deserved comprehensive care.                           
They should be treated in ICU inclined to aggresive sepsis care                 
      On 28-Sep-2013, at 0:49, "Rohrbach, Dawn" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> We recommend admitting patients with a lactate> 3 to our ICU in our facility. 
> Most of the time this is the case. The other elements are only if patient is 
> ubstable.
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> Dr. Townsend,
> Is there a sepsis specific risk/treatment stratification tool available to 
> assist in answering your question of placement in a possible lower level of 
> care? Or is there a tool to assist with septic patients who can be discharged 
> home versus admitted due to probable deterioration into severe sepsis?
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> It's been a long time since I've had to ask this question. I used to think I 
> knew the answer.
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> Here it is: do all patients who meet severe sepsis criteria need to be 
> admitted to the ICU ?
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> Examples:
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> 1. Pneumonia, fever, tachycardia, INR 1.5.
> 2. Cellulitis, leukocytosis, fever, creatinine 2.0.
> 3. UTI, leukocytosis, fever, lactate 3.0.
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> Where do people put these patients in reality? What mind of monitoring do 
> they deserve?
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> By prevailing bundles, each gets lactate checked, blood cultures, broad 
> spectrum antibiotics. That's it. Good enough? Good enough for the floor? Need 
> the ICU? Why?
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> Sean
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