No, they do not exclude. I tell our house staff that the patient will die of 
Septic Shock WAY before they will die of fluid overload-so give the full 
recommended amount, keep them from dying from Septic Shock, and worry about 
taking the fluids off later!!!  :)


Susan M. McKinney, RN
Clinical Quality Coordinator
For Sepsis
Clinical Documentation Specialist
Rapid City Regional Hospital
605-719-4428
605-484-7381
[email protected]



From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tracey Helmick
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:41 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: [Sepsis Groups] fluid resuscitation in CHF or renal patients

Our institution continues to monitor and assess our Sepsis patient data.  We 
are having difficulty meeting the new 30ml/kg recommendations for fluid 
resuscitation.  We are finding that some of our outliers are the patients with 
CHF or renal failure.  Is this a common barrier and if so, what are other 
institutions doing to assure those patients are receiving adequate fluid 
resuscitation without causing harm to the patient? Should we omit those 
patients from our data collection?

Respectfully,

Tracey Helmick RN, CCRN
Meadville Medical Center
MMC Severe Sepsis Team Nurse Champion
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

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