Re: IV push antibiotics, Most of the beta lactams can be given as rapid infusions, there are many others like quinolones, vanco, which cannot be given by rapid infusion. IV push may be an option for some antibiotics, not sure where your pay for performance would look to find documentation of when the dose had been totally infused.
Daniel Gerard RPh Critical Care Pharmacist McClaren-Northern Michigan Phone: 231-487-4770 FAX: 231-487-4817 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 3:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Sepsisgroups Digest, Vol 96, Issue 8 Send Sepsisgroups mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.sepsisgroups.org/listinfo.cgi/sepsisgroups-sepsisgroups.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Sepsisgroups digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: LR vs NS for fluid (Jenkins, Bill) 2. Severe Sepsis and Meningitis (Joseph Clement) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:50:45 +0000 From: "Jenkins, Bill" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] LR vs NS for fluid Message-ID: <90d27045f7498c48b992c582be857ede4e209...@whvmexmbx2.excelahealth.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Good morning! Does anyone have any info regarding IV push antibiotics for first dose antibiotic dosing in the ED. We are challanged by some of our payers quality "pay for performance" programs in PA to start and COMPLETE first dose antibiotics within 3 hours of arrival. Our health system has some fairly conservative infusion timing guidelines for nursing - any ideas or resources are appreciated! William Jenkins, MD Excela Health Emergency Medicine Pennsylvania ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of Kramer, George C. [[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 9:02 AM To: Daniel Gerard; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] LR vs NS for fluid Daniel, I sent this answer out to the group regarding a question on colloid use. A perspective of a physiologist, One to three is the classic crystalloid to colloid ratio and probably good to use for equivalent volume expansion of colloid to crystalloid. But crystalloid expansion is quite transient and colloids are more sustained. This is both good and bad depending on concerns about volume overload. I would say that for clinical use 6% albumin and most starches are similar as to volume expansion. I believe our clinicians use LR first and only go to albumin when LR is not effective and they don't use any fixed rules. Also, I believe they prefer LR over NS due to hypercholremic acidosis with large volume loads. I would say that plasmalyte is best crystalloid, but I don't see that it is used here much. At our institution, in ICU and OR it is almost always albumin as the colloids and ratios of 1/2 or 1/3 are typically used. There is strong evidence about the dangers and limitations of starches due to renal complications. George, George Kramer, PhD Resuscitation Research Lab Dept. of Anesthesiology UTMB, Galveston 409-939-3040 On 2/10/14 5:50 PM, "Daniel Gerard" <[email protected]> wrote: >Im interested in adding LR as an option for fluid resuscitation, both >for the saline availability issue and the problem with hyperchloremic >acidosis from NS. Is there any issue with altering serum lactate levels >when using large amounts of LR for fluid? > >Daniel Gerard RPh >Critical Care Pharmacist >McLaren Northern Michigan >Petoskey, MI 49770 >231-487-4770 >[email protected] > > > > > > >Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any >attachments, may contain confidential information. The information is >intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity named above. >If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any >disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in >reliance on the contents of this e-mail information is prohibited. 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