Hi Sue,

The study has certainly generated a buzz. For objective, serious students
of this disease, however, the study should raise serious concerns about
protocol, data, and conclusions. I'm sure these will be addressed in
medical and other nursing forums in the months to come.

A few comments or questions as examples:

1) "Usual care" has been irrevocably changed since publication of the EGDT
study in 2001, as well as guidelines from SSC supported by many of our
professional societies. Indeed sepsis management protocols existed in many
of the ProCESS hospitals, so the control groups, protocol-based (PB)
standard care and usual care, were treated by physicians well versed in
EGDT protocols.


2) The mortality rates in each study group were unexpectedly and remarkably
low, around 20%, and probably not representative of the mortality rates for
similar patients in most US hospitals. As a result of the low mortality
rate, some question whether the study was adequately powered to examine
differences between study groups, and whether the study is generalizable to
5000 US hospitals.

Moreover, why abandon measures that contributed to such impressive
mortality reductions? Are we immune to regressive behavior if practice
guidelines are relaxed or removed?


3)  The protocol instruction for the first 6 hours was to avoid central
line placement, CVP measurement, and ScvO2 in both control groups, PB
standard care and usual care, unless peripheral access was inadequate. Yet,
over 55% of patients in these groups received them for unstated reasons.
One might reasonably speculate they were placed for hypotension and
administration of vasopressors. Not stated, however, is how often these
lines were utilized for CVP measurements that confirmed or guided
resuscitation.

In the transcript of a recent NQF conference call, available to the public,
an author of the study stated CVP measurements were documented in about 1/3
of the control patients but were not used to guide therapy as evidenced by
the lack of followup measurements. However, almost any experienced
clinician will act similarly on some single measurements - a patient with a
CVP of 3 on vasopressors will almost always receive volume.

Also not reported are the number of control patients with lines who had
ScvO2 measurements, except for the few who received continuous oximetry
lines. It also remains possible that blood sample measurements of ScvO2
were utilized in control patients, but this is not addressed in the
manuscript.

We don't know how often CVP and ScvO2 measurements were made in control
patients with central lines before randomization. We don't know how often
clinicians acted on CVPs estimated by bedside neck exam, vertical column
height of blood in the lines that were inserted, or IVC dimensions and
change with respiration.

We don't know how many lines, CVPs, and ScvO2s were added in the control
groups after the protocol instructions expired at 6 hours. It is still
possible and beneficial to rescue an inadequate resuscitation beyond 6
hours.

In short, we don't know enough about management of the control groups.


4) Protocol non-adherence was reported in 11.9% but information in the
appendix suggests higher. MAP goals were achieved in only 83%. Overall
bundle compliance is not reported.

In short, we don't know enough about the quality of management in the EGDT
group.


5) Not reported are statistical comparisons between all study patients with
lines versus without, control patients with lines versus without, and each
of the 2 control group.


So in summary, care in any of the study groups is not adequately described,
and care in the control groups appears to be significantly contaminated by
EGDT. I for one do not favor protocol changes on the basis of this study at
this time, and I know for a fact that I have a lot of company.

Thanks

Ron Elkin MD
California Pacific Medical Center
San Francisco, CA


On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 6:23 AM, Sue Beswick <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Is anyone adapting their protocols with the findings that came out this
> year with the ProCESS study?
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> We are looking at making some changes.
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> Sue
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