Working on these issues with CMS to clarify their intent.  I will share more as 
soon as I can.

Sean

Sean R. Townsend, MD
Vice President of Quality & Safety
California Pacific Medical Center
2330 Clay Street #301
San Francisco, CA  94115
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
415-600-5770 office
415-600-1541 fax

On Apr 7, 2015, at 9:00 PM, Andrew Markowski 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Likewise, I didn't see, in the CMS core measure, clear definitions of elevated 
lactate or hypotension.

-Andy

________________________________
Andrew Markowski, MD, MPH
Department of Emergency Medicine
Johns Hopkins | Suburban Hospital
214-766-0665<tel:214-766-0665>


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On Apr 6, 2015, at 10:36 AM, Ryan Arnold 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Sean,
There is no mention of ED triage time in the new CMS guidelines in my reading. 
Do you have a specific reference you found within CMS that refers to ED triage 
time?
The guidelines mention “presentation” of severe sepsis or septic shock, not 
arrival or triage time. The only time based reference they use is whether the 
patient has been hospitalized for ≤ 120 days.

A patient who does not meet criteria for severe sepsis at ED triage does not 
have severe sepsis at ED triage, and would thus not meet the criteria for the 
CMS measure until they meet the clinical criteria for severe sepsis, whether it 
is in the ED or inpatient days later.

Ryan

________________________________
Ryan Arnold, MD
Research Director, Department of Emergency Medicine
Clinical Investigator, Value Institute
Christiana Care Health System
Newark, DE

On Apr 3, 2015, at 9:23 PM, Townsend, Sean, M.D. 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Jennifer, your interpretation is correct.  For patients presenting to the ED, 
triage time is time zero under the CMS measure.

Sean R. Townsend, M.D.
Vice President of Quality & Safety
California Pacific Medical Center
2330 Clay Street, #301
San Francisco, CA 94115
email [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
office (415) 600-5770
fax (415) 600-1541

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From: Sepsisgroups 
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 On Behalf Of Jennifer L Halligan [SJGH] 
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Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 8:44 AM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [Sepsis Groups] CMS Abstraction for Severe Sepsis/Septic Shock 
PRESENTATION TIME


Question to the group. I have been and currently still am abstracting TRIAGE 
TIME for “time zero”. With the release of the new measure specification 
manual/abstraction guidelines I want to clarify that I will still abstract 
TRIAGE time as severe sepsis/septic shock PRESENTATION TIME even though ALL the 
criterion may NOT be met yet at the time of triage, i.e. for severe sepsis -1) 
documentation of suspected source of infection, 2) 2 SIRS criteria, and 3) 
organ dysfunction?


Thank you,
Jennifer

Jennifer Halligan, RN
Quality Review Nurse
San Joaquin General Hospital
Tel: 209-468-7471
Fax: 209-468-7011

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