Question:

When abstracting for severe sepsis/septic shock, would a patient who presents 
to the ED in cardiopulmonary arrest be considered part of the "excluded 
population" for CMS?  Or if the patient codes in the unit/on the floor just 
prior to the presentation of septic shock be considered part of the "excluded 
population" as well?
Thank you!

Amy Cobb RN, BSN
Sepsis Coordinator/ICU Tracker
Research Outcomes
Morton Plant Hospital
MS #73
300 Pinellas St.
Clearwater, FL 33756
727-298-6953 (Desk)
727-462-3638 (Fax)
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Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 1:44 PM
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Subject: [Sepsis Groups] Severe Sepsis Presentation

What if patient's final code at discharge is severe sepsis and they came 
through the ED but did not meet all three criteria until the next day or much 
later that day but the bundle was completed?  Do we continue to abstract the 
chart until the patient meets all 3 criteria and use that as Severe Sepsis 
Presentation Date and Time?

Example:  Day 1 pt meets SIRS @ 0850, Lactate level of 3 @ 0850 but the 
physician documentation stating infection or severe sepsis isn't until 1800.  
Based on the next physician documentation and the other 2 criteria, the pt 
meets severe sepsis the following day.   I haven't found any direction within 
the guidelines regarding this type of scenario.



Thanks,
Gena Henriques, MSN, RN
Sepsis Coordinator
Tulane Medical Center
1415 Tulane Ave.
New Orleans, LA 70112
Phone:  504-988-3195

Think Sepsis:  Save A Life

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