Thanks for asking this questions - I have a similar one.  My read of the 
specification manual suggests to me that when using the 3-criteria method 
(meaning there was no documentation of severe sepsis by an MD/NP/PA), you need 
to have all 3 within a six hour period.  In the instance you gave below, if 
this is truly the only relevant data points that exist, then I would say that 
this patient does not have a Severe Sepsis Time and would fall out of the 
measure.

A related question is  for our presentations on a medsurg unit after admission. 
 MD progress notes are for the most part daily.  If we already have infection 
documented on a daily progress note, do we also need to find it documented 
again within that six hour window?  My read says yes, but I want to make sure 
I'm correct.

Thanks

Joe

Joseph Clement, MS, RN, CCNS
Clinical Nurse Specialist
San Francisco General Hospital
ph: 415206-6174
pg: 415 327-0220

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From: Sepsisgroups <[email protected]> on behalf of 
Rona Capps <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 11:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Sepsis Groups] severe sepsis determination

Please help. The Spec manual states that criteria must be found within 6 hours 
of each other to qualify for the severe sepsis diagnosis but many charts that I 
review are delayed in one thing or another. Current chart example that meets 
specific criteria:
9-22 @ 2121 lactate =2.1                        organ dys
9-22 @ 2255 HR = 111                            SIR
9-23 @ 1600 documentation of pneumonia  Infection
9-24 @ 0550 WBC = 14.3                  SIR
9-24 @ 0832 RR = 24                             SIR
As you can see the time span is great.
2 SIRs, Infection and organ dysfunction all met at 9-24 @ 0550 but did not take 
place within 6 hours of each other but rather days. Severe sepsis is NOT 
documented by physician. Do I say NO to severe sepsis question?
Thank you
Rona Capps, RN
Sepsis/VTE/Meaningful Use Quality Coordinator Jackson Hospital
Montgomery, AL  36116
[email protected]


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