It is my understanding a refusal of lab draw, line placement, or med rules them 
out.

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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 11:15:17 -0800
From: Mary Draper <[email protected]>
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Thanks for your input.

Mary Draper RN BSN
Coordinator Quality Improvement
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From: Andre Vovan [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 9:38 AM
To: Mary Draper
Cc: Kelli Barrieau; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] Administrative contraindications to care

It only makes sense that this counts as an exclusion.

Andre Vovan MD MBA
Chief of Critical Care
Hoag Memorial Hospital Prebyterian


Andre Vovan, MD, MBA
President/CEO
Newport Critical Care, Inc

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Mary Draper 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Great question. I have had this same scenario and haven?t been clear on how to 
address it.

Mary Draper RN BSN CCRN
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Subject: [Sepsis Groups] Administrative contraindications to care

We had a patient in septic shock who refused to have a central line placed. 
Without the central line, we were not able to give them vasopressors. The 
provider documented the conversation with the patient and family about refusing 
the central line and what it would mean but none of those are exclusions as an 
administrative contraindication to care. Does anyone if refusing any of the 
care would be a contraindication or is it just IV, antibiotics or blood draws?

Thank you,

Kelli A Barrieau RN BSN
Unit Based Quality Nurse
Cooley Dickinson Hospital
PO Box 5001, 30 Locust Street
Northampton, MA 01060-5001
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