That is true, but the guidelines do not specify so we are able to use either interchangeably, for the purposes of the measure.
Karen Belfi, RN, MSN Quality Outcomes Coordinator Lankenau Medical Center 484-476-8092 Pager: 5240 [cid:image001.png@01D1538A.49DD30C0] From: Carter, Anne [mailto:acar...@meridianhealth.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:51 PM To: Belfi, Karen; Andre Vovan; Gerolamo, Jeannine Cc: sepsisgroups@lists.sepsisgroups.org Subject: RE: [Sepsis Groups] Arterial line versus venous draw This message was sent securely using ZixCorp.<http://www.zixcorp.com/get-started/> It’s a lab thing…at least our lab told us that the machines are calibrated for either arterial or venous blood so you can’t compare arterial results with venous…they will be off a little bit. Since we are so particular with our lactates, they told me that you should always send from the same source. From: Belfi, Karen [mailto:bel...@mlhs.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:48 PM To: Carter, Anne <acar...@meridianhealth.com<mailto:acar...@meridianhealth.com>>; Andre Vovan <avo...@npccp.com<mailto:avo...@npccp.com>>; Gerolamo, Jeannine <jgerol...@abingtonhealth.org<mailto:jgerol...@abingtonhealth.org>> Cc: sepsisgroups@lists.sepsisgroups.org<mailto:sepsisgroups@lists.sepsisgroups.org> Subject: RE: [Sepsis Groups] Arterial line versus venous draw This message was sent securely using ZixCorp.<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.zixcorp.com_get-2Dstarted_&d=CwMGaQ&c=lC2BOuyTwLhYUwx2vqZp6A4NC8GJH--j-GtKaBDeEwM&r=M-Lm1W7boN5wHPqoUXvlmN-X-MbpoIB7ZVxYyg6jVBo&m=kHs1Y6gBvYclI6NsiNTrIm-g1NKlvYIoZn9tAeWJEhc&s=zwAgGqDUMMY6NMwsBu8-VDv4ptXmE7BIInyQedqw6xA&e=> "Note, this is an external email and did not originate at Meridian Health”. ________________________________ Where do the guidelines state that? I was under the impression that it doesn’t matter if it’s arterial or venous. Karen Belfi, RN, MSN Quality Outcomes Coordinator Lankenau Medical Center 484-476-8092 Pager: 5240 [cid:image001.png@01D1538A.49DD30C0] From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:sepsisgroups-boun...@lists.sepsisgroups.org] On Behalf Of Carter, Anne Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 5:22 PM To: Andre Vovan; Gerolamo, Jeannine Cc: sepsisgroups@lists.sepsisgroups.org<mailto:sepsisgroups@lists.sepsisgroups.org> Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] Arterial line versus venous draw As long as ALL future lactic acids are drawn arterially; you cant mix and match. Once arterial always arterial. Anne Carter MS, ACNS-BC, CEN Coordinator Outcomes Management Riverview Medical Center 732-450-2735 acar...@meridianhealth.com<mailto:acar...@meridianhealth.com> “This document and the information attached is Patient Safety Work Product & as such, is privileged and confidential pursuant to the N.J. Patient Safety Act and the Federal Patient Safety & Quality Improvement Act of 2005 and should not be further disclosed except as permitted by law.” From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:sepsisgroups-boun...@lists.sepsisgroups.org] On Behalf Of Andre Vovan Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 6:18 PM To: Gerolamo, Jeannine <jgerol...@abingtonhealth.org<mailto:jgerol...@abingtonhealth.org>> Cc: sepsisgroups@lists.sepsisgroups.org<mailto:sepsisgroups@lists.sepsisgroups.org> Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] Arterial line versus venous draw "Note, this is an external email and did not originate at Meridian Health”. ________________________________ Venous or arterial line samples are both good. Andre Vovan, MD, MBA President/CEO Newport Critical Care, Inc On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Gerolamo, Jeannine <jgerol...@abingtonhealth.org<mailto:jgerol...@abingtonhealth.org>> wrote: Are lactic acids drawn from an arterial line acceptable? 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