While we've been telling our team this re: volume replacement, I recently saw a 
question answered on CMS re: this and while it supports that this volume is 
always required, but the last sentence indicates that the physician's judgment 
may come into their decision (Question #8)
This may allow loopholes in the measure.


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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 20:49:06 -0500
From: Patricia Posa <[email protected]>
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Hi Theresa

The full 30ml/kg needs to be given. There are no exceptions per CMS guidelines

The reassessment can be done anytime after the fluid bolus is completed and 6 
hours from time met criteria for septic shock

Pat

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> On Jan 13, 2016, at 1:09 PM, "Murray, Theresa" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> At our shop we are talking about the volume resuscitation.  Does it have to 
> be the entire 30ml/kg, or can the clinician treat the hypotension with volume 
> to the point of normotension especially in a renal or CHF patent and still 
> get credit for the metric?     I have heard different responses.
> Thanks in advance for the info
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