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Difficult case can somebody please help....



1/21 Patient in ICU on Bipap with RAF and CHF.  Not on antibiotics since 1/18.  
(Was on Zosyn from 1/3 through 1/18)

1/22 patient becomes more lethargic with increased SOB and bilateral 
infiltrates on CXR:

1000 MAP 44

1045 Intubated

1059 Fluids started

No documentation of severe sepsis or septic shock at all.

No blood cultures drawn

1139 Pressors started

1518 Antibiotics restarted

1726 Fluids finished

No persistent hypotension (patient maintained on pressors already)

1805 First lactic acid drawn

1857 Results of LA 2.3



The initial LA is <4, No persistent hypotension (but on pressors already) and 
no MD or MLP documentation of severe or shock.... Is shock present at all by 
definition?????



Can I exclude this case based on prior antibiotics?



Thoughts on a severe sepsis time and/or a septic shock time?



Thank you in advance,


Melissa Weber RN, BSN
St. Charles Hospital Infection Prevention
[email protected]
Phone (631) 474 - 6110
Beeper 558 - 0405



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