The patient received an antibiotic at 1145 which is within 24 hours prior to 
presentation.
Page 1-61 in specification manual states (version 5.0b)

Notes for Abstraction:
* NOTE: To choose Value "1," there must be at least one dose of an intravenous 
(IV) antibiotic given or started in the 24 hours preceding or 3 hours after the 
severe sepsis presentation time.
* If the patient received any IV antibiotic within the 24 hours preceding or 3 
hours following the presentation of severe sepsis, choose Value "1."
* If no IV antibiotic was given within the 24 hours preceding or 3 hours 
following the Severe Sepsis Presentation Time, choose Value "2."

Jennifer Osburn, RN, BSN
Quality and Accreditation
St. Mary's Medical Center
304-526-1506
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From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Myran, Robin
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 2:45 PM
To: Rebecca Rosario; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] Clarifying Question-Broad Spectrum or 
OtherAntibiotic Selection

Rebecca -

I'm assuming you are referring to the Broad Spectrum or Other Antibiotic 
Selection data element. I share your confusion about this one.

I found this Q&A from the 10/26/15 presentation:


Question 59: With combination therapy, do both ABX have to be given within a 3 
hour time window after presentation? What if they are given shortly before the 
presentation time?


Answer 59: The only time you compare the antibiotics given to the antibiotic 
tables is if the only antibiotics the patient received are in the 3 hours 
following presentation. In the question, the patient received an antibiotic 
prior to presentation. Because of this, the Broad Spectrum or Other Antibiotic 
Administration Selection data element is not abstracted.


However, the Notes for Abstraction for this data element include the following:

*         If no antibiotics were administered in the three hour time window, 
choose Value "2."

I agree with you that answering "2" would fail the measure.

I have submitted this question to the IQR Q&A system and am waiting for a 
response. I'll let you know what they say.

Robin


Robin Myran, MSN, RN, PCCN
Sepsis Coordinator
Hoag Memorial Hospital Presbyterian
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Newport Beach, CA 92658
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From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Rebecca Rosario
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 11:48 AM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [Sepsis Groups] Clarifying Question-Broad Spectrum or OtherAntibiotic 
Selection

    Hello everyone! I hope you are all doing well. I would like to clarify with 
everyone how they are answering this question to make sure I am doing it 
correctly.
    Are you answering yes or no if severe sepsis presentation time is at 12noon 
and the broad spectrum antibiotic (only antibiotic) was given at 11:45am and 
then again at 18:00?
    Previously, someone posted that if you answer "no" that the case will not 
fail unless there are other reasons for the case to fail.
    When I look at the algorithm if you answer "2" you proceed to J but it does 
not say to add one to the sepsis three hour counter.  Page SEP-1-11
    The last algorithm shows that if the sepsis three hour counter is <3 then 
it goes to SEP-1 D. Page SEP-1-27.
    Thank you for your feedback!
    Rebecca



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