Looking for additional clarification from the email below...  

Dr. Townsend, 

Do you mean the vitals from the OR should be accepted or excluded?  I have a 
case that is severe sepsis because the only organ dysfunction criteria met is 
the low BP when the patient was placed under anesthesia.  There is no 
documentation from the CRNA, anesthesiologist or surgeon stating that the low 
BP was due to anesthesia.  If I have to include this low BP it is a fallout.  

Please advise.

Respectfully, 

Karla Cleveland BS RN
Sepsis Coordinator
Mercy Health Muskegon
1560 E. Sherman Blvd, Ste 334
Muskegon, MI 49444
231.672.2221
231.672.3965 (FAX)
[email protected]
www.MercyHealth.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Townsend, Sean, M.D.
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2017 2:14 AM
To: Jeanie Bollinger
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: [External] Re: [Sepsis Groups] [**External**] Core measure: VS in the 
OR

I think vitals from the OR should be excepted.  I'll work on that.

On Feb 2, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Jeanie Bollinger 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


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We have received some fall outs of the Sepsis Measure due to vital signs in the 
OR being used for time zero.  I sent this to QNet and below is the response 
that I received:

Unless there is physician documentation that the low BP or MAP is due to the 
medications or other condition within the OR, the BP's may be used to meet 
criteria.

The anesthesiologist or CRNA does not document a narrative note as to “why” the 
BP dropped.  Is this a reasonable expectation?  The patient is in the OR for 
source control and is being monitored constantly.  Is there consideration for 
excluding these patients from the measure or at least excluding vital signs 
recorded in the OR?

Jeanie Bollinger MSN,RN,ACCNS-AG, CCRN
Clinical Nurse Specialist
Acute Medicine
Mission Health
Asheville, NC

Phone:828-213-7171

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