I also just want to be clear regarding the new focused exam.  The spec manual 
states for each of the focused exam elements:

"Documentation indicating a physician/APN/PA has performed, or attested to 
performing a physical examination, perfusion (re-perfusion) assessment, or 
sepsis (severe sepsis or septic shock) focused exam is acceptable."

So does any physical exam documented within the 6 hr. window suffice, or must 
it be specifically called a perfusion or sepsis exam?  For instance, the 
patient presents and the bundles are initiated in the ED.  The admitting 
physician assesses the patient a couple hours later after fluid, etc.  and 
documents a physical assessment in the H&P (within the 6 hr. window), but 
neglects to specifically document cap refill/perfusion.  Would this meet the 
requirement?  Even if it is not called a perfusion or sepsis focused exam?  

Just want to be sure before we communicate with our docs.



Kristen Christiansen, RN BSN
Clinical Outcomes Coordinator
Patient Safety and Performance Excellence
Longmont United Hospital
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For clarification:
For the RN exam, does the RN need to document all individual elements that are 
required in the focused exam?  
The MD needs to sign the RN exam within the time window beginning at the 
crystalloid fluid administration date and time and ending six hours after the 
presentation of septic shock date and time?

Thanks

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Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] [**External**] Focused exam 2017

You no longer need to document the individual elements in the record.  A 
provider may simple write that a focused exam was performed or reviewed.

Yes, they can review a nurse's exam now.



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Can I get a clarification re focused assessment?
Most recently, if a physician documents "a sepsis exam" or "perfusion exam" 
completed, would that prompt the abstractor to say "yes" to the components 
required for a focused exam?
And if so, would that still mean the components must be documented individually 
in the record?
I may be mis-interpreting the latest CMS update.
Thank you

Tish Poserina RN, MSN-Ed, CCRN-CMC, CNRN Sepsis Coordinator St Mary Medical 
Center
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If you write that a focused physical exam was reviewed that will pass.  The 
doctor does not have to perform the exam.

On Feb 3, 2017, at 12:47 PM, Swash, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Dr. Townsend,
The guidelines state use Physician/APN/PA documentation only for Examine 
findings so are you saying they can refer to Nurses examine documentation? Can 
you please clarify? Thanks Pat

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Sepsis Groups] [**External**] Focused exam 2017

You no longer need to document the individual elements in the record.  A 
provider may simple write that a focused exam was performed or reviewed.

Yes, they can review a nurse's exam now.



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Can I get a clarification re focused assessment?
Most recently, if a physician documents "a sepsis exam" or "perfusion exam" 
completed, would that prompt the abstractor to say "yes" to the components 
required for a focused exam?
And if so, would that still mean the components must be documented individually 
in the record?
I may be mis-interpreting the latest CMS update.
Thank you

Tish Poserina RN, MSN-Ed, CCRN-CMC, CNRN Sepsis Coordinator St Mary Medical 
Center
1201 Langhorne-Newtown Road
Langhorne, PA
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 14:25:08 +0000
From: Lori Harmon <[email protected]>
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Subject: [Sepsis Groups] Proper link to SSC guidelines manuscript
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All,


Perhaps placing the link in this email will take you directly to the guideline 
rather than solely the resources.


Best,

Lori


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