Dr. Rutherford,

We have canned text built into our ED MDM documentation which states:

TIME: Following IV fluid resuscitation, I performed a sepsis focused physical 
exam.

Also we have docs that write everything out, it's their preference but we have 
not had any issues with cases coming back to us with this attestation statement.


Starlynn Burnett, RN
Concurrent Review
West Hills Hospital and Medical Center
7300 Medical Center Drive
West Hills, CA 91307
818-676-4513
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Documentation that the Sepsis Focused Exam Completed that includes a date and 
time of the documentation, that is sufficient. 



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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 16:17:48 +0000
From: "Rutherford, Richard" <[email protected]>
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Subject: [Sepsis Groups] Sepsis Focused Reexamination
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Hello All,


We are struggling with compliance with the focused sepsis reexamination and 
struggling with the interpretation of the rule changes in v5.2.  I would 
appreciate advice on the minimal acceptable documentation to pass this element 
for septic shock patients.  We would like the standardize this documentation 
for our providers.  Would the following be acceptable?


VS  BP 120/60  HR 110  RR 18  T 98.6

Sepsis Focused Exam Completed.


Or do the individual components need to be documented:


VS  BP 120/60  HR 110  RR 18  T 98.6

Capillary refill evaluation complete

Peripheral pulse examination complete

Skin examination complete


Or do the actual results need to be recorded


VS  BP 120/60  HR 110  RR 18  T 98.6

Capillary refill evaluation complete:  Cap refill 2 seconds

Peripheral pulse examination complete:  radial pulses strong and symmetric

Skin examination complete:  skin pink warm dry


Thank you,


Rick Rutherford, M.D.


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>From what I've read, the first one, that says "sepsis focus exam completed" is 
>sufficient, even without the vitals above being listed.

Karen Belfi, RN, MSN
Quality Outcomes Coordinator
Lankenau Medical Center
(484)476-8092

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Hello All,



We are struggling with compliance with the focused sepsis reexamination and 
struggling with the interpretation of the rule changes in v5.2.  I would 
appreciate advice on the minimal acceptable documentation to pass this element 
for septic shock patients.  We would like the standardize this documentation 
for our providers.  Would the following be acceptable?



VS  BP 120/60  HR 110  RR 18  T 98.6

Sepsis Focused Exam Completed.



Or do the individual components need to be documented:



VS  BP 120/60  HR 110  RR 18  T 98.6

Capillary refill evaluation complete

Peripheral pulse examination complete

Skin examination complete



Or do the actual results need to be recorded



VS  BP 120/60  HR 110  RR 18  T 98.6

Capillary refill evaluation complete:  Cap refill 2 seconds

Peripheral pulse examination complete:  radial pulses strong and symmetric

Skin examination complete:  skin pink warm dry



Thank you,



Rick Rutherford, M.D.



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This question is for those facilities that receive transfers. When getting a 
severe sepsis or septic shock patient from an outside facility . . . do you 
repeat the labs included in the sepsis bundle?



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It depends on where they are transferred to. If they arrive in our ED, the labs 
may be repeated but not always if they go to critical care. Since they are 
excluded from the focus study I don't follow up on them unless there are other 
issues that need to be addressed.

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This question is for those facilities that receive transfers. When getting a 
severe sepsis or septic shock patient from an outside facility . . . do you 
repeat the labs included in the sepsis bundle?

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