Beginning in 2018 Ideal Body Weight can be used to calculate IVF boluses for 
patients who have a BMI of 30 or over. Please see the new 5.3 CMS 
Specifications Manual which is effective for 1Q2018 and 2Q2018 discharges.  

For the remainder of 2017 I agree with Karen Belfi's response: " Use the 
patient's actual weight. Use estimated weight only if actual weight is not 
available to determine the volume of crystalloid fluids the patient should 
receive. Do not use ideal weight."

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The guidelines state not to use ideal body weight.



                Use the patient's actual weight. Use estimated weight only if 
actual weight is not available to determine the volume of crystalloid fluids 
the patient should receive. Do not use ideal weight.


Karen Belfi, RN, MSN
Quality Outcomes Coordinator
Lankenau Medical Center
(484)476-8092

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For the 30ml/kg fluid requirement, is anyone using IBW for your obese patients? 
I have found conflicting statements on if this will satisfy the requirement. If 
you do use IBW, can you send me your reference that supports using it.


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Nicole Dyess, PharmD
Antimicrobial Stewardship Team Leader
Conway Regional Health System
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