Hi can anyone provide me with any literature on the fact that approx. 8 hours prior to a patient arresting that there is a trend change in their vital signs? Thank you David
From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Posani, Theresa Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 9:43 AM To: Orth, Claudia; jenny clarke; Tara Miller Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] Sepsis Best Practice Alerts WARNING: This email originated from outside of Beaumont Health. Do not click on any links or open any attachments unless you recognize the sender and are expecting the message. Claudia, We use all of the following: shock index (>0.70 (HR/SBP = SI) plus SIRS + (2 or more) plus MEWS (4 or more) = firing of the sepsis BPA. I have noticed more appropriate firing of our sepsis BPA. It is not perfect; but, it is an improvement on the inpatient non-ICU areas than using either the SIRS or MEWS individually. It does not fire in either the ICUs or the ED. Thoughts? Theresa Theresa Posani, MS, RN, ACNS-BC | Med/Surg CNS/Sepsis Coordinator T 817.250-3907 | M 972.838-7954 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [https://brandcenter.txhealth.org/logos-templates/Logos/Locations%20(Wholly-Owned)/Texas%20Health%20Fort%20Worth/No%20Tagline/RGB-Email%20Signature/THFortWorth-email.jpg] From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Orth, Claudia Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 2:50 PM To: jenny clarke <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Tara Miller <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] Sepsis Best Practice Alerts [EXTERNAL] Would you be able to share what criteria is used to fire the Best Practice Alert (BPA). We currently have 2 alerts that fire: 1 for SIRS and 1 for SIRS PLUS organ dysfunction. We are thinking of blending the 2 together to perhaps give them a bit more sensitivity and specificity thereby decreasing some of the confusion and “alert fatigue” we are experiencing. I am desperately seeking input and feedback on how other institutions have addressed this…i.e. what criteria triggers and alert, what is the response, is the alert sent out as a page or an open chart alert, etc. There is still reluctance to have “alerts” go to providers so nursing currently carries the full burden of these. Our thought is to have an alert fire to nursing that would require a call to the provider if the following is present. Please feel free to critique and advise: 3/6 of the below criteria is present = EARLY WARNING ALERT FIRES 1. HR > 90 2. RR>20 3. Temp >38.5 or <36.0 4. WBC >12,000 or <4,000 or Bands >10% 5. Altered Level of Consciousness 6. SBP <90 →Nurses order STAT Lactate level & the notify the Provider who needs to assess the patient and document why sepsis is being r/o or begin sepsis orders – 3 hour bundle. This will also offload the current burden of nursing needing to decipher whether or not infection is present or should be suspected. *? Blends Sepsis 2 and Sepsis 3 definitions and streamlines/simplifies expected standard of care/roles & responsibilities. Similar to a Modified Early Warning Score? Thank you in advance for your much valued time, expertise, and anything you may be willing and able to share! Sincerely, Claudia Claudia Orth BSN, RN , CCRN-K Regional Sepsis Coordinator Clinical Quality Munson Medical Center Traverse City, Michigan 231-935-5692 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jenny clarke Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 3:25 PM To: Tara Miller <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] Sepsis Best Practice Alerts We set it up to not fire again once cleared by the nurse. But it will still fire for Dr and residents. Then ever 8 hours it reset. But I will say I am not sure it is helping. We did add GCS score to take into account neuro status. But it is still very hard to get nurses on floor to enter that with all vital signs. Still a struggle!! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 6, 2017, at 1:42 PM, Tara Miller <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: We use EPIC as our EMR. We currently are using best practice alerts to fire off to the nursing staff when a patient meets SIRS criteria and then we have the nurse assess the patient and review the record for possible source of infection prior to initiating the sepsis code/ alert. Does anyone else use best practice alerts and use something other than SIRS criteria? We would like to make the alert more specific and cut down on all the firings throughout the day. Thanks. Tara R Miller, RN Team Leader, Quality Management Mobile Infirmary Medical Center Office: 435-5109 Cell: 605-8270 <image001.jpg> Confidentiality Notice: This electronic message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. 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