The inclusion guidelines for abstraction lists "does not want" as acceptable. 
Had the provider not included the patients response than I would agree that 
this would be an outlier. Per provider documentation the patient does not want 
the 30ml/kg. 


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I wouldn't consider this an administrative contra based on the documentation, 
as they did not refuse anything.


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Would this not be considered an administrative contraindication to care due to 
the patient and daughter agreeing to gentle hydration and not a 30ml/kg bolus?

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Perhaps CMS would have accepted this as an appropriate exclusion if the 
provider had included wording such as "CHF with pulmonary edema and concerns 
for fluid overload" or "ESRD on HD with anasarca and concerns for fluid 
overload". The provider didn't clearly state why there was a concern for fluid 
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 13:35:59 -0400
From: "Culver, Danette" <danette.cul...@nortonhealthcare.org>
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All,

We recently queried CMS for accepting the following documentation as refusal to 
30ml/kg bolus and they stated it did not meet the criteria. Can anyone provide 
a rationale as to why this documentation doesn't suffice? My providers prefer 
taking a more positive approach that is more inclusive of the patient, not the 
negative tone of 'patient refuses.' Any advice is greatly appreciated as well.

The following was documented by one of my MDs - "Patient meets criteria for 
30ml/kg bolus, there is concern for fluid overload and cardiogenic shock. The 
plan was discussed with patient and patient's daughter who agreed to modified 
plan of care to include gentle hydration and vasopressors, not a 30ml/kg bolus."

Thanks so much,
Danette

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We had the same issue at a hospital I previously worked for, especially in the 
ED where we were responsible for drawing our own labs.  We found the following 
contributed to the contaminated specimen:
1.  Cultures were being drawn from the IV site which caused them to often be 
contaminated.  (Site cleansed with Chloraprep thoroughly before anything else 
was set up allowing for the proper drying time between cleansing and sticking)
2.   Nurses would draw both sets from the same site (in serviced on 2 sets  = 2 
sites unless extremely hard stick then only 1 set was obtained)
3.  When doing blood cultures, the bottles were often uncapped and left sitting 
at the bedside while finishing setting up to drawn them.
This left them exposed in the room (corrected by when uncapped an alcohol prep 
was placed over the cap until ready to place the blood)

Every month on the BULLETIN BOARD in our breakroom, were the names of all 
nurses along with their contamination percentage, if we had X amount of 
contaminates we had to do an in service with 15 of our Co-workers reviewing the 
proper way to draw a blood culture.


Have a Blessed Day. Philippians 4:13 (NKJV)1 "?I can do all things through 
Christ who strengthens me."
Thank you.

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That is a great idea. Thanks

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> On Sep 7, 2018, at 1:02 PM, Angela Craig <acr...@crmchealth.org> wrote:
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> We are working on this exact issue at our hospital.  We are about to go to a 
> process where we will post all names and contamination rates and celebrate 
> those who do well and those who have a 3% or greater contamination rate will 
> have to go to a blood culture refresher class.  Hope that helps.
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> I would recommend extensive education/training for all personnel collecting 
> blood cultures.  As the microbiology supervisor in a community hospital in NY 
> that had a 10% contamination rate, we used a multidisciplinary approach and 
> brought the rate down to 2% in a year's time.
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> Anyone have any help to curb this issue? I have even tried to make it 
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