On 11-07-2014 15:09, Jeremy Evans wrote:
On Friday, July 11, 2014 9:36:22 AM UTC-7, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas wrote:

    I'm curious. How do you decide when to stop supporting some Ruby
    version?

    1.8.7 has reached EOL from the MRI team and it's no longer
    supported by newer Rails releases for a while already. It also
    makes it harder for newcomers to contribute code as they might not
    even know that the new Hash syntax is not supported by Ruby 1.8,
    for example. And it's also responsible for things that wouldn't
    make sense otherwise, like the case for overriding Object#id,
    which no longer is defined since Ruby 1.9.


I'll remove support for 1.8.7 when it becomes a burden to support it (with proper deprecation, of course). I see a significant benefit in continuing to support it (allowing people running ruby 1.8.7 to update to newer Sequel versions), so there would have to be a significant cost before I would remove it. So far, supporting ruby 1.8.7 has not held me back in adding any feature I wanted to add, so I haven't seen a significant cost.

Much of the ruby ecosystem still supports ruby 1.8.7, including most of the database drivers that Sequel uses. Current versions of pg, mysql2, sqlite3, oci8, ibm_db, and sqlanywhere still support it, for example (tinytds dropped support). When the common databases drivers stop supporting ruby 1.8.7, that will signal to me that it may be time to drop support in Sequel.

Ok, what about changing the behavior for id to raise if the column does not exist? Or to conditionally define id depending whether Ruby is 1.8 or newer?

    Anyway, if I understood correctly it's totally fine for me to add
    an undef_method(:id) to my model without any side effect on Sequel
    overall, right?


Sequel doesn't call the method internally, so that's probably fine.

Great, thanks!

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