Well, we can go back-and-forth, but my logic comes back to two things:

1. You generally want the select to happen when inserting so you can read 
back default values (which is probably why its a default functionality).
2. On bulk inserts when you don't want 1000+ select statements pointlessly 
happening because you know in this particular instance you aren't reading 
back default values, you want to opt-out of this.

So, we can say anecdotally that "nobody asked for it" or that "it's useful 
to many people as it is".

Ultimately the question is, does this functionality logically belong with 
this plugin? I say "yes", you say "no". So we disagree, it happens. 

I'll just roll my own... :)

Aryk

On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 7:11:46 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Evans wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 10:32:55 PM UTC-7, Aryk Grosz wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, the implementation is super simple because you are basically 
>> skipping a method. I think though if you are already going to have a 
>> plugin, you may as well give a little functionality to actually make it 
>> useful.
>>
>
> The plugin is actually useful now for many users, even if it doesn't 
> handle your particular use case directly.
>  
>
>> It seems likely someone would want this general functionality on bulk 
>> inserts, and opt-in specifically when that happens. This plugin was created 
>> and designed for instances like those, but because of the rigid 
>> implementation, can't really use it selectively.
>>
>
> It's been 7 years since the plugin was added and this is the first request 
> for such a feature.  So you may want to reconsider how likely it is someone 
> would want this.
>  
>
>> Wouldn't take much to throw in an instance accessor.
>>
>
> "Wouldn't take much..." can be used to justify just about any additional 
> feature/scope creep.
>  
>
>> I can PR it if you want, but if you think it shouldn't belong with this 
>> plugin, I'll just do it locally...
>>
>
> If other Sequel users express the need for the feature, then I can 
> reconsider.  But before adding support for a feature and committing to 
> supporting it for a long time, I need to be convinced there is a general 
> need for it.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeremy
>

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