Hi Robert,
thank you for answer. Do you know when Sequoia 4.0 will be released?
I know that there is no exact date, but maybe more or less accurate?

Regards,
Tomasz.

W dniu 27 sierpnia 2008 20:50 użytkownik Robert Hodges <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisał:

>  Hi Tomasz,
>
> Triggers can indeed cause problems.  If you have updates on two separate
> tables that then trigger updates on a third table, Sequoia won't guarantee
> the update order for the third table, because it does not know about the
> extra updates.
>
> There's work afoot to cure this as part of Sequoia 4.0, but until then you
> have to use triggers very carefully.
>
> Cheers, Robert
>
>
>
> On 8/27/08 11:45 AM, "Tomasz Lemański" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Emmanuel,
> Thank you for quick answer! This exactly clarifies my doubts about how
> Sequoia works. I made some tests and indeed there is only one active
> connection per table in write operations.
> So as far as I can imagine, there could be a problem with data consistency
> when triggers on MySQL are used, eg: trigger on INSERT in one table changes
> data on another one. But this scenario could not be solved by any solutions
> like Sequoia.
> Am I right?
>
> Regards,
> Tomasz.
>
>
> W dniu 27 sierpnia 2008 18:09 użytkownik Emmanuel Cecchet <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisał:
>
> Hi Tomasz,
>
> Actually the scheduler is now just a big on/off button that let's query go
> further in the controller or not, it does not really schedule queries in the
> sense of a database scheduler. The group communication just ensures that all
> queries are delivered in the same total order at each controller.
> It is the role of the BackendTaskQueues (basically a database state
> machine) to serialize the writes to the same table and only allow writes to
> different table to go in parallel (unless there are referential integrity
> constraints). This state machine ensures that for a set of incoming queries
> in a total order it will deterministically play the queries on the backend.
> As each backend runs exactly the same state machine, it ensures that each
> backend is going to play the requests in the same order.
> This means that if you have a workload with a high degree of writes
> executing in parallel, this will look really slow on Sequoia that will
> serialize all the writes to make sure they are executed 1-by-1 in a
> deterministic order. This is the price to pay for consistency.
>
> I hope this clarifies the way some of the things work internally.
>
> Thanks for your interest in Sequoia,
> Emmanuel
>
> I would like to ask you about mechanism responsible for data consistency in
> raidb1 distrubution mode in Sequoia (2.10.10). There isn't much information
> about this in documentation.
>
> Assumptions:
> Two sequoia controllers in raidb1 distribution mode (Scheduler set to
> PassThrough). Each Controller has one MySql backend.
>
> I know, that communication protocol between controllers and between
> controller and backend provides data consistency (especially order is
> preserved).
>
> As far as I know database engine does not guarantee that in high load
> environment (many read/write operations with table locks on myisam) first
> query that arrives to the engine is executed earlier then a query that
> arrives later.
> Eg. there are lots INSERT and DELETE operations. If INSERT operation was
> send earlier then DELETE operation, there is no guarantee that engine
> execute queries in te same order, and after this operation there will be a
> record that should be deleted.
>
> In one database environment it's acceptable problem, but when we use
> sequoia for data replication to more backends there could be situation where
> on two different backends databases there will be different data. And it is
> not acceptable.
>
> As far I as I understand documentation pessimisticTransaction scheduler
> could help (because there is only one write operation in parallel and no
> limits on read queries). But there is no such option on raidb1
> configuration.
>
> At the end, my question is:
> Is there a solution in Sequoia to be sure that on every database backend in
> raidb1 scenario there are same data?
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
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