On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 05:06:44PM -0700, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> Ideally, lessons learned here in serf can drive any changes in
> httpd-2.1.  It seems that input side of things in httpd-2.0 has
> largely been ignored - something that absolutely can't be ignored
> for a client library like the mythical serf.

Definately. Especially for things like the proxy which have to deal
with both the server and client sides of HTTP.

I don't want to reinvent the wheel though, and there are many good
client-side HTTP libraries out there. I'd rather see us identify
problems (like the one in flood) that we want to solve. I think
having concrete problems will help drive development here.

> However, the biggest problem, IMHO, is the level of abstraction
> we want to have in serf.  I know Aaron and I have talked about it,
> but I'm not sure that anyone came to an agreement here.  I also
> know that Aaron has widly different views about the abstraction
> of things versus what is in httpd-2.0.  So, that may be worth
> discussing first (I'm not terribly sure if he's written up email on
> this)...  For starters, do we use the buckets and brigades from
> apr-util?

I wouldn't say "wildly" different, but indeed different. :) There was
some talk recently both here and on [EMAIL PROTECTED] (not to mention IRC), but
I still feel it is too early for me to start talking design until I get
a better grasp of the kinds of problems I'd like to solve WRT filters
and abstract I/O.  Hopefully I'll have more solid ideas that we can talk
about as OSCON and even better at the hackathon.

-aaron

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