Vincenzo Gianferrari Pini wrote:
Yes. And one of the things that held us up for a long time was making
changes that blocked our ability to get good releases out the door. I'd
like to learn from that, and avoid a repeat.
--- Noel
If this is referred to anything happened in the last year I'm
interested going deeply, otherwise it is old stuff and ASF is made by
people and not by past scenarios.
As a help to understand this point, I'll describe what happened in the
past, until last year. Noel and Danny can tell more about it.
Thanks Vincenzo,
it has been an interesting reading, btw I think that the current
scenario is different enough.
As contributor I don't need the 2.3.0 release: I don't care about it. I
told many times that I consider it uncompleted work.
As PMC member I agree that a release is good now, but what I think James
need is new code, new features, more modularity. This is why I
*actively* supported the creation of a 2.3 branch and I did everything
to facilitate the 2.3.0 release.
As contributor I accepted to spend time on the 2.3 branch because I
thought this was the "price" to be able to work "in peace" in the trunk
for a while.
Furthermore I think it is not fair to think that "new" people will make
the same mistakes done by "old" people in past.
As I already said, since I've been a committer, our trunk has always
been ready to be released. Whenever someone asked for a release I
replied: "we can branch anywhere and publish a release". I've *never*
applied code that blocked our trunk for weeks/months.
I've fixed every bug opened against code I introduced as fast as
possible (most times in 1-2 days).
Btw, if you, Noel and Danny will meet at ApacheCon maybe you will have
the time for PMC duties and find solutions for this problems.
People seems to fear me because I commit new things without discussing
it before. I understand this, but if anyone want to discuss he must
allocate the time to do that. Imho is not good to James to block every
new initiative because of lack of time of people that feels the need to
control or to be involved but has not time to actively do that.
In the time we all lost in this discussion we could have created a new
feature for James.
Stefano
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