robert burrell donkin schrieb: > On 5/7/07, Norman Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> robert burrell donkin schrieb: >> > On 5/7/07, Norman Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> robert burrell donkin schrieb: >> >> > On 5/7/07, Norman Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> robert burrell donkin schrieb: >> >> >> > On 5/7/07, Norman Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Guys, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I wonder if it whould be helpfull to provide some James Ubuntu >> >> >> >> packages.. I could put my Hands on if there is any need ;-) >> >> >> > >> >> >> > have you talked to the team downstream? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > - robert >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Which team ? >> >> >> If you talk about the ubuntu guys then i didn't . But I think we >> >> could >> >> >> put the "unofficial" deb packages on the page, even if they not >> >> want to >> >> >> include it to the dist. >> >> > >> >> > ubuntu may well be interested in the packages and it's much >> better for >> >> > everyone if we talk to them first >> >> > >> >> > - robert >> >> > >> >> >> >> Hi Robert, >> >> >> >> I will take care ;-) >> > >> > not sure i grok that >> > >> > most downstream guys are cool and very pleased when an upstream shows >> > up to volunteer to put together and maintain a build for them. (the >> > exception is debian since they have philosophical issues with java.) >> > >> > - robert >> >> Whats grok? I can't find a german word for it :-( > > it's net slang meaning completely understand > > - robert
Ah ok... In the meantime i talked to some guys in #ubuntu-devel. Here is the log: [08:51] <norman> Hi all [08:52] <norman> I'm one of the PMC's of james mailserver (james.apache.org). We want to ask about include james in ubuntu. Where I should start to ask about it ? [08:52] <Treenaks> norman: is it in Debian? [08:52] <norman> If there whould be any intressed I whould start to prepare the packaging [08:53] <Treenaks> norman: if possible, we prefer to take the Debian package, instead of our 'special' own package [08:53] <norman> Treenaks: No.. It isn't included in any OS yet... We just thought about to build debs now [08:54] <Treenaks> norman: You really should ask Debian then -- to avoid conflicts when Debian adds it themselves and we sync it in [08:55] <norman> Treenaks, ok so you think debian is the best place to start. I just ask because its a "java" app and debian not include the java bins.. Just java-comon [08:55] <Treenaks> norman: they do have java, maybe not _sun_ java.. [08:55] <Treenaks> but they do have java [08:55] <norman> Treenaks, Well we need sun java.. Thats the point [08:56] <norman> At least im not 100 % sure it will work quite well with other java [08:56] <Treenaks> norman: they'll help you debug it, probably [08:56] <Seveas> Treenaks, they have sun-java as well, in non-fre [08:56] <Treenaks> Seveas: sure, but 'non-free is not part of Debian', so it's not "in debian" [08:56] <Seveas> so 'james' should go in contrib [08:57] <Seveas> nitpicking [08:57] <Mithrandir> Treenaks: we can sync out of contrib, though [08:57] <norman> Ok i will ask on debian . Thx for all your help [08:57] <Treenaks> Mithrandir: sure [08:57] <Mithrandir> norman: if you can't find anybody there who wants to package it, please do get in touch and we'll get it in directly in ubuntu [08:58] <Seveas> Mithrandir, not from non-free to multiverse? [08:58] <Mithrandir> the reason we ask you to try Debian is just to avoid double work if there's interest for it in Debian [08:58] <Mithrandir> Seveas: sure, from non-free too [08:58] <norman> Mithrandir, thx .. Btw, I did debian packaging ( own builds) in the past, so i think we whould be able to maintain it by our own. Whould this be a problem ? [09:00] <Mithrandir> norman: you would then either become a Debian or Ubuntu developer which is a process to go through; I would not recommend it unless you want to maintain more software for the distros; it takes some effort to keep up with policies and such. [09:01] <norman> Mithrandir, well I think my aviable time is not enough to mantain more then a few packages. So this will be very unlikly :-/ [09:02] <Mithrandir> norman: then I would rather recommend you work with a maintainer who is already a DD or UD. [09:03] <norman> Mithrandir, thx for all your help.. I will try to start with debian. If there is no intressed i will come back [09:04] <Mithrandir> great. I will try to contact some debian developers when I have some time aviable .. bye Norman --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
