robert burrell donkin ha scritto:
> On 7/17/07, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> IMHO it is not spring support to justify a milestone or not. It is a
>> cool, long awaited feature, for sure (and kudos to Bernd for this) but
>> Spring support will be only one more of the *127* bugs fixes/features we
>> already have in trunk:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JAMES?report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel
> 
> often having a bit of cool new functionality to aim at helps to
> concentrate the mind and it's easier to get excited about one cool
> feature than hundreds of minor fixes and changes...

Sure, FYI here is a list of new features already in trunk:

- SMTP Server
  - 8bitmime support
  - Greylisting support
  - SPF support
  - Better SpamAssassin support
  - Support for POP-before-SMTP (roaming users)
  - URI blacklist support
  - URIRBLHandler for fastfail
  - Add reverse lookup checks and HELO/EHLO checks in SMTP
  - Support Connection Limit per IP

- Virtual hosting / Dynamic reloading / JMX+RemoteManager management
  - introduced the VirtualUserTable (VUT) Service
  - Support dynamic reload of servernames
  - Added JMX+RM operations for spool/mail repositories and user management.
  - Support the use of VUT to extract servernames.
  - Added management for the new VUT store/repository.
  - Added management interfaces and remotemanager commands to manage the
servername list

- Critical Issues
  - Almost fully rewritten DNSServer to fix OOM issues and some critical
caching bug.
  - Added search-domain configurability to DNSServer
  - Introduced Commons Daemon to run james as non root.

- Furthermore we have now 2 experimental "IMAP servers".

IMHO some of them is at least as cool as spring support. Of course this
is only a personal opinion: I wrote the list only to update you on
what's in trunk, as you wasn't here when we worked there. I have to
admit that I had forgotten most of them in this months, too.

My personal pick is the much better support for virtual hosting that
come out from some of the VUT-related features (mainly because fastfail
and imap are not yet mature enough).

>> My question was about the plan details: I was curious about how do you
>> propose to manage the milestone cut.
> 
> dunno :-)

same here :-) ... or better :-/

> i'm not proposing anything ATM just posing the question: would a
> milestone from trunk containing spring integration be a good idea?
> 
>> While I'm here, I've a doubt: is there any limitation in packaging an
>> early access version of javamail in a official release (even if it is
>> only a milestone ?).
> 
> this is a question of policy
> 
> in terms of apache policy, it's really a question of licensing. before
> thinking about a release, all the licenses need to be checked anyway
> so it's no real extra work.
> 
> in terms of JAMES policy, that depends on what we collectively decide
> is appropriate for a milestone release

Ok. Then I'm fine with the use of SNAPSHOT/ea/beta dependencies in
milestones/alpha/beta releases (as long as their license allow this).

>> I remember in past the SUN "ea" releases had a
>> special license (that wouldn't have allowed a release), but now in the
>> jar LICENSE file I can't find any pointer but a standard CDDL.
> 
> AIUI sun have significantly rationalised their licensing policy recently
> 
> - robert

Right. I was referencing it to make a concrete example of a license (the
old early access license) that would have not allowed us to make an
ASLv2 release distributing that code.

Thank you,
Stefano



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