On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Bernd Fondermann
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> On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 22:11, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto:
>>>
>>> 1. spring-deployment is a (cool) spring based avalon container
>>> 2. pheonix-deployment is an avalon container
>>> 3. both depend on components coupled to intrusive avalon interfaces
>
> Maybe it's ok to rephrase that a little bit, to highlight an important
> difference to phoenix: The spring-deployment _supports_ Avalon-based
> components, and thus it depends on Avalon interfaces. You can (at
> least that was my intention) deploy any other non-Avalon-based bean
> besides our Avalon-based components.

cool :-)

>>> 4. the intrusive nature of avalon is bad for the code base
>>>
>>> this means that it's not going to be possible to factor out non-avalon
>>> components within the current layer structure. either
>>> spring-deployment needs to depend on pheonix-deployment or a new layer
>>> is going to be needed the functions and the avalon-containers.
>>>
>>> - robert
>>
>> This is a perfect summary of my previous concerns :-)
>> To be more precise spring-deployment is a spring based avalon container
>> compatible with phoenix configuration (config.xml) and descriptors (xinfo)
>> so, there is something more than avalon in the coupling.
>>
>> I guess the ideas was to have spring as an avalon container so we could move
>> some component out of avalon step by step.
>
> this, and deploy new James components which are not tied to Avalon,
> and get MBeans running again under modern JDKs, and make it easier to
> integrate with anything already running in Spring, and to integrate
> James into Spring-supporting containers, like Geronimo, Tomcat, Felix.

cool

how freely can avalon and spring components be mixed?

- robert

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