On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto:
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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>>>>> 3c) another option would be to extract the imap.message package to its
>>>>> own
>>>>> module (message). codec (or both decode/encode if it is splitted) would
>>>>> then
>>>>> depend on this message module). If I'm not wrong processor would so
>>>>> depend
>>>>> only on "message" and not on codec(decode/encode).
>>>>
>>>> a separate message module makes sense
>>>>
>>>> this area is a little messy and hope it can be resolved more elegantly
>>>> once some of the deprecated structure's removed.
>>>
>>> I created a message module but I also moved there the "encode" part of
>>> the
>>> codec.
>>> I did this temporarily because I don't know how you want to deal with the
>>> ant api-library-function-deployment layering and the above separation
>>> allowed me to not introduce another layer.
>>
>> i'll take a look at this once you've finished
>>
>>> How would you handle this in the self imposed layer rule?
>>
>> no real need to keep the rule for IMAP
>>
>> when decomposing a project as large and coupled as james, the tendency
>> is to create a mess of modules with deep and complex interdependencies
>> rather than working to correctly separate concerns. the
>> api/library/function split (plus deployment) prevents this from
>> happening. in order to fit the modules into this constraint it's
>> necessary to separate concerns and adopt a relatively coursely grained
>> and simple system of coupling.
>
> So, how do you propose me to solve the "message" module issue?
>
> A) move .message. to api?
> B) create a new layer (between api and libraries) for .message. ?
> C) leave as is (message+encode in a module, decode in the other module).
> D) revert (merge again message and codec).
>
> I'll give a try to the api module to understand if some class can be moved
> from api to message in order to make the 2 modules indipendend, but I doubt
> this is possible.

leave as is for now

>>> Maybe the whole "message" package should be moved to imap-api instead?
>>> Looking again at it I don't fully understand why some of "imap.message"
>>> should be in api and something else should be in codec (now message)
>>> library. Can you give me any hint?
>>
>> i was planning to review this post M1 so it's probably that stuff's
>> just badly organised
>
> I find the current "message"+"codec" module better than before (even if
> encode is in message module.
> Maybe we should simply rename "codec" to "decoder" and release M1.
> (I say this because I understand you want to do M1 early..)

ok

- robert

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