Update.... I tried 'laundering' my JAMES outbound mail through SES, which is an Amazon-provide SMTP server.  An intermediate smtp relay server shouldn't be necessary.  But desperation will drive a person to try anything once.... I had to configure the SES service and get a server name and ID/PW to access it.  I configured it as a gateway in the james transport processor.  I sent a test email through JAMES via SES to my gmail account, and, viola, 'not spam'.  There's a charge for SES usage, but it's not much.  Still, I have no clue what SES cleans up and/or adds to the email to make gmail happy.  But if I can ensure that gmail will be happy for all of my emails, it'll be worth it.  (Still would like an understanding if anybody has any ideas)

Thx

Jerry


On 2/5/2020 4:37 PM, Jerry Malcolm wrote:
For months, every email I send through my JAMES server to a gmail account is flagged as spam.  I've been setting up a completely separate JAMES environment for a different client.  I figured this rebuild-from-scratch would be a good chance to verify that I'm following all best practices.  I thought the problem might have been related to the fact I was using virtual hosting in the other environment, and there might have been mismatches due to the sender domain vs. my hosting domain.  But this new environment has only one domain.  I am DKIM signing.  I have an SPF record.  I have a DMARC record. Yet every email I send to gmail accounts is still sent to the gmail spam folder.   I get a 10 out of 10 score in mail-tester.com.  And even when I open the email source view in gmail it says DKIM:PASS, SPF:PASS.  Yet there it sits... in the spam folder with the spam flag.  All of my environments are on Amazon Web Services.  I've tried requesting different IP addresses.  Nothing works.  I even tried sending using my alternate out-of-the-box JAMES version on the new domain.  The out-of-the-box version doesn't have DKIM.  But it uses the same domain name, same ip address, and same database.  And mail sent with this version still goes to spam.

I would say it's just my stuff that gmail hates.  But with a brand new domain and latest build out-of-the-box JAMES, there's nothing specific about my stuff here.

Can someone test sending mail from JAMES to a gmail account (that hasn't already whitelisted the sender) and see if they can get an email to not be sent to gmail spam?

I'm stuck.  What else could be wrong?  This new client is heavily dependent upon account-verification via email.  If all of the verification emails end up in spam folders, it will be a disaster the company.

Please help!

Thx

Jerry


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