Our company provides kidsnet parental controls (www.kidsnet.com) and we wish to donate the URL filter database to OLPC to help keep kids away from web sites that may be detrimental to their development (we believe it is a better list than SmoothGuardian, Corporate Guardian, URLBlacklist.com and others).
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Re: Transfers between xo and school-server (Tomeu Vizoso) 3. Re: Transfers between xo and school-server ( Robson Mendon?a ) 4. Cutting a slice of wikipedia - CDPedia (Martin Langhoff) 5. Re: [OLPC India] need help w/ OLPC technical training program (Bryan Berry) 6. Re: Cutting a slice of wikipedia - CDPedia (Martin Langhoff) 7. Re: [OLPC India] need help w/ OLPC technical training program (Martin Langhoff) 8. Global collaboration, Jabber federation, and NAT (Benjamin M. Schwartz) 9. Re: [Grassroots-l] need help w/ OLPC technical training program (Stefan Reitz) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 14:59:16 -0300 From: " Robson Mendon?a " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Server-devel] Transfers between xo and school-server To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello people! This is my first contribution to this mailing-list, and I need some orientation about a proposal that I did to OLPC through the GSOC. My proposal is implement a method to publication of the objects saved in the Journal to School Server, and build a web interface, witch become possible the teachers and parents interactions with the productions of the children. If you want see my proposal I can send it. So, I still looking for something that can be a guideline to make this new Journal resource, I know that is possible update the XO through the web, but I didn't find the API that make this work. I only need some indication, a start point to learn about the transfers between XO and XS, somebody can help me? Thanks for you attention, and sorry about my poor english. o/ -- Robson Mendon?a http://www.myweboncreate.com http://www.robsonmendonca.com Desenvolvedor Tecnol?gico LEC - Laborat?rio de Estudos Cognitivos - UFRGS Centro de Excel?ncia Sun para Desenvolvimento de Solu??es de TI para Educa??o -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/server-devel/attachments/20080408/820ab939 /attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 20:13:55 +0200 From: "Tomeu Vizoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Server-devel] Transfers between xo and school-server To: " Robson Mendon?a " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi! 2008/4/8 Robson Mendon?a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello people! > > This is my first contribution to this mailing-list, and I need some > orientation about a proposal that I did to OLPC through the GSOC. > > My proposal is implement a method to publication of the objects saved > in the Journal to School Server, and build a web interface, witch > become possible the teachers and parents interactions with the > productions of the children. > > If you want see my proposal I can send it. Could you please copy it to wiki.laptop.org? > So, I still looking for something that can be a guideline to make this > new Journal resource, I know that is possible update the XO through > the web, but I didn't find the API that make this work. What do you mean by update the XO through the web? You mean http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Olpc-update ? > I only need some indication, a start point to learn about the > transfers between XO and XS, somebody can help me? Well, I'm afraid that as of today there is no backup of the journal to the school server. Or is there? There was some talk about the xos to initiate backup of their journals when they got in reach of the school server, taking some precautions to not overflood the network, the server nor the XO. The server would have the ability to interpret the metadata and display to the user the contents of the backed up journal. That software would be able to perform full text search on part of the text related to entries. The part that is closer to your proposal is the possibility for kids to consult the public part of their colleagues' journals. Ideally, the transfer of entries to the school server would happen transparently to the user, although perhaps we should add an option to initiate a single transfer in order to publish an entry without having to wait for the backup to finish. Would like to know if this is anywhere close to what other people had in mind? Thanks, Tomeu ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 17:18:29 -0300 From: " Robson Mendon?a " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Server-devel] Transfers between xo and school-server To: server-devel <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi! Could you please copy it to wiki.laptop.org? Yep! I did it. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/AMADIS What do you mean by update the XO through the web? You mean > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Olpc-update ? > Yep again. I don't know if this have any relation with file transfer between xo and server. But the focus of my question is don't repeat any existent work. However, if this is possible or not, only you can say me. I know about the network problems in the field, in the last year when many kids, at Porto Alegre trial school, tried to connect with the internet, few succeeded. Because of this, I saw that the Journal publication, in the proposal, couldn't be automatic. Thus can be a problem or hurt the OLPC concepts about backup, then you can talk to me, and lead me to maintain the means clear. How Tomeu saw, If somebody is thinking in something closer with this, I still open to discussion, this is very important to me. Thanks for your attention. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/server-devel/attachments/20080408/67cdec6b /attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 21:22:32 -0300 From: "Martin Langhoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Server-devel] Cutting a slice of wikipedia - CDPedia To: server-devel <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yesterday we had a mini-sprint with argentinian pythonistas and we discussed Alecu's CDPedia which is a Python toolchain that does are good job of cutting a slice of wikipedia and cutting off the least interesting parts to make it fit. His project is here http://code.google.com/p/cdpedia/ and it would be great if Alecu could explain a bit more what it does -- I am sure I didn't do it any justice above ;-) So - Alecu, meet the list, list, say hi to Alecu ;-) I would love to see this progress -- we definitely need something like this to assist the localization teams to build a good content package for the XS. Are there related projects? I thought I had seen one but I cannot find anything now, so it was perhaps discussion about desired functionality? cheers, martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:23:49 +0545 From: Bryan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Server-devel] [OLPC India] need help w/ OLPC technical training program To: amit gogna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Arjun Sarwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, server-devel <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain The XS guide would be extremely useful. I am concerned about creating a guide for it when it is still under rapid development. Please make sure you are in close contact w/ Martin Langhoff so you don't have to document a feature or bug that may disappear in a week or two. If you haven't already, you should check out Martin's XS Roadmap http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Roadmap On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 11:51 +0530, amit gogna wrote: > Hi Bryan, > > It is interesting to see kind of effort you have taken in this > direction. As I guessed I had pointed out in the conference on 25th > for the need for this (I dont know if Arjun also had said the same > thing).. I'm working on kind of preparing a XS First Time Learners > Guide. which could include many of your mentioned points and I would > just brainwash myself just to see if something else could be > included. > > I think one of the key interesting points we could add to the guide > after the basic learning is the working of ad-hoc networks. It would > be interesting to understand the details of wireless network , > troubleshooting , monitoring etc. > > Cheers, > Amit > > > > On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Bryan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > hey guys, > > A while back Arjun commented in a conference that India could > really use > a technical training guide for folks new to linux and OLPC. > > I have put together a basic training program that I am in the > middle of > w/ teacher Manoj Ghimire > > Arjun, I could really use your help collating the XO and > XS-specific > tips. > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Nepal:_Support_Training > > -- > Bryan W. Berry > Systems Engineer > OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org > > _______________________________________________ > India mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/india > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 09:01:52 -0300 From: "Martin Langhoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Server-devel] Cutting a slice of wikipedia - CDPedia To: "Charles Merriam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: devel-list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, server-devel <[email protected]>, "Alejandro J. Cura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 [fixed the server-devel list address] On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 6:21 AM, Charles Merriam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah, the old days were cutting out the images and putting the whole > thing on one's cell phone. :-) > Seriously, one might consider: http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page > > Simple is about 10,000 articles written in simple English, aimed at > children trying to learn English. That's gorgeous! I didn't know Simple English wikipedia existed - thanks for the pointer. Sad that I can only see 'Simple English' -- was hoping for a other major languages to have their simple version too. OLPC deployments want a slice of wikipedia in the local language (though they might be interested in 'simple' versions of other languages). The CDPedia script can slice and dice any language you ask it to. cheers, m -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:48:30 -0300 From: "Martin Langhoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Server-devel] [OLPC India] need help w/ OLPC technical training program To: "Bryan Berry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Arjun Sarwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, server-devel <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 3:38 AM, Bryan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The XS guide would be extremely useful. I am concerned about creating a > guide for it when it is still under rapid development. Please make sure > you are in close contact w/ Martin Langhoff so you don't have to > document a feature or bug that may disappear in a week or two. > > If you haven't already, you should check out Martin's XS Roadmap > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Roadmap I agree 200% with Bryan - at the moment we have an XS build that is moving quickly (or rather, that is starting to move quickly ;-) ). It is hard to document such a moving target, specially for beginners. The path I think Bryan is taking is very smart for the current situation - aim for decent Linux know-how, and then give them pointers to the XS specifics (in the wiki). As we approach 1.0 it will make more sense to have an XS beginners guide. Hopefully, it will be an easier job too, as things will stop moving so much ;-) cheers, martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:10:22 -0400 From: "Benjamin M. Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Server-devel] Global collaboration, Jabber federation, and NAT To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At the mini-conference, I was told that there were problems achieving global collaboration by federating the schools' jabber servers. The schools turn out to be behind NAT, and are not globally routable by IPv4, and there is not enough bandwidth in the network to tunnel all traffic through a center node at the Ministry of Education. I asked about this problem on JDev, a Jabber development list, and got a reply: Alexander Gnauck wrote: | Benjamin M. Schwartz schrieb: |> Unfortunately, it is possible that multiple school |> servers will be using different ports on the same global IPv4 address. |> The result would be multiple servers with the same IP address. I imagine |> that this breaks s2s, since the XMPP standard seems to demand that |> servers' names be unique, and either IP addresses or DNS names. | | the XMPP domain of your server must be unique. So you could have xmpp | domains like: | | server001.school.org | server002.school.org | ... | server100.school.org | | if you setup SRV records for all this domains you should be fine. In the | srv record you specify the s2s and c2s ports. This appears to be a good point. SRV records, generated dynamically, would seem to solve the routing problem for certain kinds of NAT. Specifically, it seems that it should work for most kinds of NAT except Symmetric NAT. With Symmetric NAT, we have no choice but to route all traffic through some globally routable server. - --Ben -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH/M5OUJT6e6HFtqQRAp7DAJ9GGZgdPmPM5K0CecRoG97pIIcU8QCghfur IxcRulZu9XvVz/VK2Z+SwQ4= =UVjn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 15:06:09 +0000 From: Stefan Reitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Server-devel] [Grassroots-l] need help w/ OLPC technical training program To: Bryan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Arjun Sarwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected], Nepal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, grassroots <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Brian, I LOVE your list. Allone day 1, bullet points 1, 2, and 3, cover so much ground, you could start companies just taking care of this... ;-) You are right on the mark with your post. Most of your questions are really my own. And you came up with some I didn't think of (but hopefully would have being in your situation). This looks like a good to do list for folks documenting their accomplishments. Development is not just about getting some fix / feature deployed, but enabling the 'customer base' to use it - with a close look on your 'customer's' capabilities... (and he generally is just undertrained / underinformed / from a 'different background'). Stefan (I hope to be contributing to Day 1.3 with some sort of knowledge base once (spare) hardware starts really moving.) On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 08:28 +0545, Bryan Berry wrote: hey guys, A while back Arjun commented in a conference that India could really use a technical training guide for folks new to linux and OLPC. I have put together a basic training program that I am in the middle of w/ teacher Manoj Ghimire Arjun, I could really use your help collating the XO and XS-specific tips. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Nepal:_Support_Training > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:28:02 +0545 > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Grassroots-l] need help w/ OLPC technical training program > > hey guys, > > A while back Arjun commented in a conference that India could really use > a technical training guide for folks new to linux and OLPC. > > I have put together a basic training program that I am in the middle of > w/ teacher Manoj Ghimire > > Arjun, I could really use your help collating the XO and XS-specific > tips. > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Nepal:_Support_Training > > -- > Bryan W. 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