couple of observations:
As expected, the new tiles have a lot more detail.
There are more levels of zoom in the new ones.
Some names have changed - the old map had Lalitpur and the new one has
Patan (both are used)
I don't see any boxes for unprintable characters, but there is a lot less
Devanagari. (Google maps has more)
Is it possible to merge individually generated regional tiles? for
example if you rendered India and Nepal separately would you get both?
What happens if you render the world at level 10 and then specific
countries at 16?
*From:* xsce-de...@googlegroups.com [mailto:xsce-de...@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Anish Mangal
*Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:06 PM
*To:* J?r?me Gagnon-Voyer
*Cc:* xsce-devel; Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to
help AT laptop.org; Unleash Kids!; server-devel; iaep; Internet In a Box
Working Group; Jaakko Helleranta
*Subject:* Re: [XSCE] RE: [UKids] Re: [support-gang] Taking OpenStreetMap
Offline - DESIGN Call - Thur June 11, 10AM EDT / 2PM UTC
Hi,
Following from the skype call this week, I uploaded Nepal's OSM data in
postgres and render tiles to see performance, and as expected, everything
is blazing fast.
The pbf file went into the postgress in less than 5 minutes, and tiles are
being rendered pretty fast as well.
You can check it yourself by going to
http://home.braddock.com:28112/osm/slippymap.html
* Select Mapnik
* Zoom out and center over Nepal
* Select Local tiles
* Zoom in
I don't know what this "proves" as the bottleneck still is doing this for
the entire planet, which we need to figure out a way for anyway.
Best,
Anish
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 6:02 AM, Anish Mangal <anis...@umich.edu> wrote:
Hi J?r?me,
I incorporated one of your comments; as for the other I think Timm, Nick
would be better suited for the discussion (python backend v/s frontend js).
:-)
Best,
Anish
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 3:22 AM, J?r?me Gagnon-Voyer <gagno...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Anish
Great document. I've added 2 comments to the document, feel free to
incorporate into the document if that makes sense.
Also added a TODO for myself to do more research about the various search
solutions.
I've used Nominatim in the past (on the client side, not the server
infrastructure) and it was overall very good, but I'll want to know more
about the other ones.
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Tim Moody <t...@timmoody.com> wrote:
Thanks, Anish for an excellent start at getting this down on paper (so to
speak). I think this covers things pretty well and gives us the necessary
hooks on which to hang the details as we begin fleshing out solutions to
the requirements you documented.
Under issues I added one point about rendering non-Roman character sets.
*From:* unleashk...@googlegroups.com [mailto:unleashk...@googlegroups.com]
*On Behalf Of *Anish Mangal
*Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 12:15 PM
*To:* Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to help AT
laptop.org
*Cc:* Unleash Kids!; server-devel; xsce-devel; iaep; Internet In a Box
Working Group; Jaakko Helleranta
*Subject:* [UKids] Re: [support-gang] Taking OpenStreetMap Offline -
DESIGN Call - Thur June 11, 10AM EDT / 2PM UTC
Okay, so I tried to encapsulate whatever we discussed into a design
document, which can hopefully serve as a base for reaching out to the OSM
community and to better organize our own thoughts.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LWsN-cPH3lvMuXS-f0Tk8IWVh-3X808WoIt0OJ-QNt8/edit#
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LWsN-cPH3lvMuXS-f0Tk8IWVh-3X808WoIt0OJ-QNt8/edit>
Please feel free to edit the information there as I may have missed some
points, or interpreted them differently than as intended.
Best,
Anish
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 12:00 AM, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote:
Who's attending http://stateofthemap.us at the UN in NYC this weekend?
Who's most serious about bringing OpenStreetMap's opportunities and rapid
progress into the hands of the world's offline poor -- kids and all,
American and Swahili? Wanna Take This Map Outside, offline and off the
grid, where we all belong/began?
http://Internet-in-a-Box.org and similar efforts have made a gigantic 1st
step: in Ghana and Rwanda I could never have imagined better reviews to our
2015 deployments begun there in recent months. Many are now changing the
game increasingly for the Bottom BillionS, among many who've literally
never seen a globe before, nevermind a map of their own towns. Both in
OLPC (school) contexts, in libraries, on Nepali hillsides where folks don't
have proper homes, and far beyond --- perspectives (literally) are about to
change.
But modern phones today contain more than enough gigabytes to display ALL
OpenStreetMap map detail within most countries, and yet they do not yet,
WHY? Where are the Khan Academies and KA Lites of OSM (OpenStreetMap)
bringing new classroom/journalistic rubrics, freeing everyone's "brain
software" to explore and document our own communities in our own languages?
*Who Will Take The Next Steps?*
*What engineering middleware, distribution vectors, community/economic
models, and final field packagings will get us all there & beyond?*
*Will offline edit-contributions prove impossible, much like with
Wikipedia in Peru, when offline kids edit overly stale
OpenStreetMap/Wikipedia images a year before/later?*
As such the wider OLPC community is hosting a DESIGN Call to bring forward
ideas across the OpenStreetMap landscape, fertilizing our immediate work
with school server projects like http://schoolserver.org, http://xsce.org,
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Education-Li-f-e ETC. Ministries of
Education in India elsewhere are watching closely, expressly eager to help
if we can point the way. All giving our "2020 Vision" questions very
practical and immediate "customers" well before 2020, much like Garmin GPS
units fed a wonderful ecosystem of geo-specific "gmapsupp.img" offline map
files over the past decade:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Map_On_Garmin/Download
That decade's now done: what IS our framework for the coming decade?
Please join us if you have strategic/partnership ideas towards making
Offline OSM Designs happen, *Thank You !!*
10AM New York Time / 2PM UTC
Thursday, June 11th
RSVP with your Skype username, if we are more than 15-20 we'll use an
industrial conference call system instead!
CONCLUSION: Could OpenStreetMap be the very ultimate in Constructionist
Learning Projects, replacing OLPC in coming years, on a quickly
shrinking/endangered but still green-in-parts planet? Regardless, how to
build the OLPC Movement's offline/civic learning successes, consciously
learning from its community infrastructural mistakes? Nick Doiron (
http://mapmeld.com) and Anish Mangal (
https://in.linkedin.com/in/anishmangal) who've spent years thinking about
this topic will lead the discussion, agenda is entirely yours! OPTIONAL:
submit agenda items in advance right here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o6QtzLb6e58YKWqMf_junux2XyBRLFm31un8YLcYslg
*< forward invitation to Twitter/wherever as appropriate >*
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