--- "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There seems to be only one active developer: he is > > working on JamesNG, trying to migrate away from > the > > Avalon beast. > > Actually, no. Development outside of the ASF > infrastructure is not > development. I'd be fairly happy to see him as an > active developer, working > with the others.
Any development is development, particularly when no commits are happening on the main code base. I'm sure he'd use the ASF infrastructure, if he were given a branch to go crazy on. > > if the dart-throwers were burning up their > keyboards cranking > > out new features, integrating submitted patches, > making more > > than typo-level fixes to the website, figuring out > a versioning > > strategy, or at the very least read up on > lightweight containers > > etc. > > Lightweight containers is a fairly low priority > compared to the many > features that are pending. Man, with comments like that no wonder there's gonna be a code fork. Lightweight containers are not about containers but the contained objects. I'd argue that a pico-based (or any other ligthweight container-based) implementation would hugely benefit the project and energize development by recruiting new talent. I have walked-through and debugged a fair bit of the SMTP and configuration stuff in James with Eclipse (yes, I admit it, I'm a recent IDE-convert) and have found some really strange inheritance hierarchies. All this Avalon stuff really makes one's head spin. Trying to provide alternate implementations for some components being a pain usually reflects the lack of well-thought-out interfaces. In the case of James, it's probably a lot more about evolution, then original poor design. Gabor Gabor Kincses Running Mandrake Linux 10.0 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]