If all problem emails are from your domain to your domain, you could put an
extra james server in there.  The first talks to the outside and rejects
anything from your domain.  Everything else is forwarded to the second
domain (the one you have now probably).

I didn't look at the matchers, but do any give you ip address checking?
Maybe something in that area would help.  If you are using private
addressing space internally, should be even easier.

-----Original Message-----
From: JWM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 11:32 AM
To: 'James Users List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: How to stop Spam sent to my domain FROM my domain?


The only way you could do that is if they are making up email addresses at
your domain as 'from' addresses and these addresses don't really exist.  I
don't know of a specific matcher that does that.  But it would be easy to
create one. If they are using existing email addresses as from address, I
don't see a way to differentiate from a legit email from that person.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 10:20 AM
To: James Users List
Subject: Re: How to stop Spam sent to my domain FROM my domain?

You are correct it is not coming from my server.  And I'm aware of spam 
like this that I can not stop on my server....

I'm asking a bit of a different question.  A third party is sending mail 
to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).  They have set the FROM address to be 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]).  In this case, James is getting the email and 
delivering it to me.

What I wonder is there a configuration setting or matcher/mailet that 
can detect this and do something (e.g., mark is as spam, or just reject 
it entirely) with the email.

Chris....

JWM wrote:

>Chris,
>
>99% chance it has nothing to do with your server.  That mail never came
>close to your server.  Anyone can put any return address they want on an
>email.  What typically happens is that viruses on user's machines will
>harvest addresses from the user's inbox and use them as return addresses
for
>spam.  
>
>So the good news is that it isn't coming from your server, and therefore
you
>don't have a virus or security hole.  The bad news is that isn't coming
from
>your server, and therefore there is absolutely nothing you can do to
prevent
>it.
>
>Jerry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chris Hane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 9:26 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: How to stop Spam sent to my domain FROM my domain?
>
>
>I have a pretty vanilla James (latest released version) installation.
>
>I am receiving spam from third parties with the FROM set to an address 
>in my domain (for example the from is [EMAIL PROTECTED]).  I'm assuming 
>this is some type of virus on the sending machine.
>
>Is there a configuration option or mailet/matcher that will verify that 
>if the FROM address is using a domain being managed by James, that the 
>email user must be authenticated?
>
>I have James setup so that authentication is required to send/receive 
>email using the server.  However, if email is being sent to me, the FROM 
>address can be anything, which includes addresses in my domain.
>
>It's causing a bit of confusion in my user base because the emails look 
>like the are coming from legit addresses.  Our virus software is 
>stripping out the viruses, so I'm not worried (right now) about 
>virus...this is more a support issue with my users.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Chris....
>
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