Hello Marc. I use IntelliJ community edition as an IDE. Maven support turns out to be very handly.
Benoit On 12/08/2021 23:45, Marc Chamberlin wrote: > Thanks Benoit, Garry for your responses and sorry for the delay in responding > myself. I will be happy to take a look at the mail list code (existing and > developing) as my time permits, and sharing and working with you on it. It > has been awhile since I last developed some of my own mailets and matchers so > I will need to get back up to speed. > > Before I embark on such an adventure, can you tell me if Apache James is set > up to work in the Eclipse IDE? I much prefer working with an IDE rather than > using stand-alone tools. If not, does anyone have Emacs set up to meet the > coding standards and requirements for Apache James? If so I could use any > jump start config files needed to work in either of these environments? > > Thanks, Marc > > > On 8/7/21 11:50 PM, btell...@apache.org wrote: >> Hello Marc, >> >> There is a lot to say, but we would, I guess, gladly accept mailing list >> lie contributions on the master development branch in a separated module. >> >> I personally would enjoy providing professional support implementing >> such a feature if needed. >> >> Mailing list support is however out of scope for the current version - >> no ETA should be expected out of it. >> >> James is also a flexible email platform: everyone can develop their own >> mailet/matchers and implement mailing lists without it ever needing to >> land on the mainstream James project. >> >> That being said, I have doubts about the >> one-mail-server-to-rule-them-all approach IMO have some limits. Mailing >> list are well handled by mature software (eg: mailman) easy to use in >> combination with any email server, including James. I hardly see the >> need to include yet-another complex feature in the scope of Apache >> James, but that is my own opinion (however I agree documentation / links >> to tutorials on that set up could be handy - contribution welcome there >> too). I would rather invest on our strength as a project, and rely on >> tier software to complement our weaknesses. Mailing list but also spam >> detection, and why not mail exchange (MX) are IMO good examples of where >> James benefits from being coupled with other systems. (If you have a >> hammer, maybe you should not use it on screws.) >> >> Note that we have some feature covering some of the very basics: >> Recipient Rewrite Table allows some kind of group alias but client >> subscription / resignation, header setup are not taken into account by >> this approach. Also concerning archiving PonyMail hosted by the ASF >> allows to do so. >> >> On 08/08/2021 09:29, Marc Chamberlin wrote: >>> Hello - I am still limping along with James 2.3.2 and every year or >>> two I come back to the Apache James website to see if mail lists are >>> supported yet with the appropriate mailets and matchers necessary, in >>> the latest version of Apache James. And every year or two I am >>> disappointed that the documentation for mailets and matchers has not >>> changed and it appears that only a couple of experimental matchers are >>> supplied as part of the standard set of mailets. Not having support >>> for mail lists is a show stopper for me/us and for a number of other >>> reasons I would like to upgrade our servers to the current version of >>> James, but can't. >>> >>> My questions are, is mail lists feature ever going to be supported by >>> James, if so what is the expected ETA, or should I give up on James >>> and invest my time and energy in some other mail server? Is there >>> undocumented support for mail lists that I don't know about? It seems >>> weird that only a couple of matchers are supplied and even weirder >>> still that the James team is apparently not using it's own current >>> server to support it's own mail list for this list - >>> server-user@james.apache.org! >> We are volunteers, and rely on the ASF INFRA team for all project >> resource management: website, code base, build, JIRA, and yes mails. >> >> It's handy, and the INFRA people does an amazing job at managing all of >> this! I admit that it is tempting to rely on them rather than setting up >> our own custom stuff... >> >> Use your own dogfood - I know - that's what I do as part of my job in my >> company, but I personally would lack time to support James adoption >> within the ASF. >> >> Note: there had been previous discussion on backing the ASF mail stack >> with James servers. I can't recall why this didn't happen - that was >> before I on-boarded the project. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Benoit >>> Thanks in advance for thoughts and suggestions! 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